[ichy]

Did all my research, bean animal seems to be the way to go. Who is running one? Thoughts, ideas suggestions. Is a C2C weir still the way to go?

Thanks

 

[SingAlongWithTsing]

Did all my research, bean animal seems to be the way to go. Who is running one? Thoughts, ideas suggestions. Is a C2C weir still the way to go?

Thanks

yup, C2C

either with 2 pieces of acrylic or glass bonded together to shape a L

or find something like this with long weirs:

^ someone one is selling that on ebay, exotic_marine or something

or you can go partial C2C like this:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/custom-150g-shallow-riparium-journal.556741/

 

[AdamTill]

I'm running one. I went with an internal coast-to-coast and planted it:

 

[ichy]

so on the external boxes, I assume they need to be sealed to the back of the tank?

 

[AdamTill]

Pretty sure the bulkheads do that.

 

[ichy]

ya guess my research was not good enough to catch that! LOL..

Well in rethinking this...an external sure saves space in the tank. Mine is a 50gal so saving room is big.
AND I should be able to build my own internal weir box. Since that does not have to be water tight, that's kind of a no brainer. Then it comes down to the external box. I should be able to build one out of acrylic, just have to make sure I get it water tight.

I'm going for the external one!! I was having research paralysis but now glad I slept on it!! Time to start CADing it up!

 

[ichy]

Picked up some 1 1/2" bulkheads today. I plan on using them as at the internal box drains. Two of them about 6 inches apart.
But my question is, is there any problem using 1 1/2 inch tank drains to 1" plumbing in the external box?
I'm guessing the drains will only dump as much water as the output can drain down to the sump and return it???

Man sch80 1 1/2" bulkheads are beefy!!!!

 

[m_t_r_86]

Not trying to insult, but before you make the buy and spend the big bucks, I would definitely make sure my tank isn't tempered glass. Most 50's and 55's are tempered.

 

[ichy]

well its an oceanic, its an old tank but there website says bottom is tempered and the sides are not.
First thing I checked.:wink2:

 

[m_t_r_86]

well its an oceanic, its an old tank but there website says bottom is tempered and the sides are not.
First thing I checked.:wink2:

Ok. Just making sure. If feel bad if something were to happen and know u had the chance to say something. Good on checking that.

 

[ichy]

Ok. Just making sure. If feel bad if something were to happen and know u had the chance to say something. Good on checking that.

still doesn't mean I wont f it up when I drill! lol..:surprise:

 

[SingAlongWithTsing]

still doesn't mean I wont f it up when I drill! lol..:surprise:

you can tape the other side or place a bucket in there while drilling.

make a template with wood or spare acrylic and just pour some water in the hole while drilling

i'm not speaking from experience though, only observation lol

 

[ichy]

here is my CADed matt board mock up.
Will do the external tomorrow. But the idea is to use the acrylic from the actual box as a guide before i glue up the box. I've got it all worked out in my head..which scares me! lol.

 

[ichy]

mock up

Did a matt board full mock up. Glad I did a couple things became obvious:

1. My external box is too deep, the bulk heads will waterfall into the box, its ten inches high...can cut that down a bit.
2. The 1" bulkheads for the plumbing are too close together, should be able to spread them out and move them back away from the end of the bulkhead.
3. I may cut the extra length off the overflow bulkheads. I will see once I move the 1" plumbing pipes.

 

[Turningdoc]

Consider taking the easy way out?

http://www.glass-holes.com/700-gph-Overflow-Box-Complete-Kit-gh700kit.htm

$80. 20 minutes. Hole saw included. Done.

 

[slythy]

Consider taking the easy way out?

Aquarium overflow box 700gph

$80. 20 minutes. Hole saw included. Done.

when I get around to getting large tank, i think bean animal is 100% the way to go. it has a fail safe on overflow if a snail is a dick and clogs one of the pipes.

Also its incredibly silent.

But if i were to drill my 40B i would go the glass holes kit

 

[ichy]

Consider taking the easy way out?

Aquarium overflow box 700gph

$80. 20 minutes. Hole saw included. Done.

Not what I'm looking for. Tiny box, its got teeth, no bean animal. Besides there is no fun in that!:wink2:

I just need to make a couple changes to my CAD file and I'm good to go! Will probably cut the acrylic tomorrow.

 

[SingAlongWithTsing]

Not what I'm looking for. Tiny box, its got teeth, no bean animal. Besides there is no fun in that!:wink2:

I just need to make a couple changes to my CAD file and I'm good to go! Will probably cut the acrylic tomorrow.

how thick is the acrylic? 1/4" ?

i would add some cross braces on the external portion just in case it might bow

 

[alpha1172]

im running several tanks with modified bean animals, i never had the room for the emergency drain, My main tank i built a glass external box with 2 3/4 pipes, one full siphon one partial, in the tank i had 2 holes drilled , with a piece of glass on an angle setting the level in the tank.


in my farm tanks downstairs all 40g breeders i drilled 2 3/4 in holes right at the bottom of the rim, i should have gone down a bit lower, inside i built an acrylic box it was about 6in high 6 wide and 3 deep, this was silicon around the bulkheads, about 1 inch below the top of the tank so far it all works great, apon startup the top tanks get right up to over flowing before the full siphon kicks in, this would be solved by drilling the bulkheads down farther from the rim

 

[ichy]

fiddeled with hole placements this morning...took a big breath and started cutting!!

Got the inside weir box done, everything turned out perfect.
I have not glued it up yet, I think I want the thicker solvent vs. the water thin stuff.