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Hi Folks,

This is one of those questions that 100 people will answer in 100 ways.

I currently have in my open top 85g tank, 5 otos ( i think, never see more than 3 at a time ) and 5 Chain Loaches. Overall the tank is in decent shape, but there is green algae growing on the glass - much in parts that are hard to reach. Plants have some BBA too, but not much yet. There are some MTS in the tank, but the Chain Loaches have kept their numbers low.

Thought I'd get more expert recommendations on cleanup crew.

I expect to add 5 more Otos as soon as I can get to the store.

What would you add to make the "perfect", balanced cleanup crew.

Current occupants:
2 4" angels
1 male beta (who is doing well)
6 Rummynose
6 Cardinal tetras
7 Threadfin Rainbows
5 (or 3 Otos)
5 Chain Loaches.
8 Praecox Rainbows due in this week.
 

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Amano shrimp are the way to go, if you can find them. Also, you can get some Nerite snails, as long as you dont mind cleaning up the eggs they leave ALL OVER the place (dont worry, they need SW to hatch).
 

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^ I was going to recommend those as well until I went back up there and read that the OP has a chain loach.

Might be some expensive loach food.
 

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Definitely amano shrimp. I have a "metric ton" and I can see the spots they hang out in are almost completely clean of algae of any type.

Pleco's are great too. I have a big common in a 140 gallon tall and he works overtime on the glass. I'd say he keeps it about 80% clean by the time my weekly cleaning/pruning/water change day comes along and saves me a lot of time having to clean the glass. In an 85 gallon, you might be better off with a couple of the smaller varieties though, like the bristlenose.

I have 7 ottos in there, too, but honestly they don't seem to put much of an obvious dent in anything. They mostly hang out on my vals and rarely mess with the glass. They are eating well though because they have that big pot belly they are supposed to have and are doing great without any supplemental food. Maybe I should get some more.
 

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Amano shrimp are the way to go, if you can find them. Also, you can get some Nerite snails, as long as you dont mind cleaning up the eggs they leave ALL OVER the place (dont worry, they need SW to hatch).
i read somewhere that the amano shrimp also need some salty water for them to breed as well, is this true?
 

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Amano shrimp are great algae eaters, but don't even bother if you have angels. I spent $40 on 15 of those little guys, and the next day they were all gone. (i have 2 angels in my 85g).

Get some corys maybe? Bristlenose plecos?
 

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i read somewhere that the amano shrimp also need some salty water for them to breed as well, is this true?
Yea, they need salty water. Which, IMO, is a plus. Unless you're looking to breed. A friend of mine, somehow, got them to breed in FW but I think he lied and it was brackish :hihi:
 

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^ No it's just that there is another species of shrimp that is somewhat common in the hobby in certain areas of the world, and is misrepresented as amano shrimp. It's well documented. Google it up. ;)
 

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I think the Angels are on their way out and more Rainbows on the way in - mostly smaller varieties. Will CRS, or RCS be OK? Amanos are out as my tank is uncovered and they have a reputation for leaping out. The Girls and mom couldn't handle a shrimp on the ground - dead or alive - but alive would cause a panic. :)

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I think the Angels are on their way out and more Rainbows on the way in - mostly smaller varieties. Will CRS, or RCS be OK? Amanos are out as my tank is uncovered and they have a reputation for leaping out. The Girls and mom couldn't handle a shrimp on the ground - dead or alive - but alive would cause a panic. :)

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Any shrimp you add will turn into fish food because of your dwarf chain loach.

-Philosophos
 

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I would suggest adding one or more bristlenose plecos, rubberlip plecos or dwarf pitbull plecos. All are great algae eaters and get along fine with other fish.

Not all loaches have problems getting along with shrimp. I have Amano shrimp in the same tank as a pair of zebra loaches and none have mysteriously disappeared.
 

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^^ never had a prob with amanos jumping on my tank and its been open for months 7 in my 20h
I've been told that it has to do with them being comfortable in the tank. If its barren, with no place to hide or molt, they want out. Also, when they are first added to a tank. But once they're happy and used to it, they're good to go. But, if they do get out, they run as quick as roaches! :drool:
 
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