I've kept shrimps before and just because all your shrimps seem healthy does not mean there will never be any deaths or else your shrimps would be considered immortal.The blue pearls were all healthy so I'm sure it wasn't dead (I don't have that many, so I can easily keep track of all of them).
for what it's worth, I believe you, and appreciate the heads up! something to look for. if there is one thing I have learned in this hobby, it is that nearly anything is possible... and with the assassin snail still being very new to the hobby, much of it's behavior is still being learned right now.I'm not sure why people are still so skeptic about assassins eating healthy shrimp. There's a handful of people who have witnessed it already, I just did.
I am no shrimp amateur, so I know if my shrimp are healthy and/or old. I just got these guys 2-3 months ago as juvies, so there is no way they died of old age.
But... whatever, I'm not going to try and convince you all to stop keeping assassins and shrimp together. Heck, I'm still going to leave them together. I'm just saying that for those of you who honestly don't think an assassin snail can catch, kill and eat a shrimp, think again. It does not happen often, but it CAN happen. That's all I wanted to point out in this thread. To finally end the myth that assassins are absolutely 100% shrimp free. They're not, but your shrimp loss is so minute and rare that you can consider these "freak" accidents.
I don't have pictures or videos, so, am I going to try too hard and defend myself? Not really, I guess it's just a matter of whether or not you'd take my word. Though I'm not sure why I'd spend the time to "bad mouth" assassin snails. I love them I simply want to dispel the myth about them being harmless.
Again, I STILL keep the two together because I am aware that the chances of it happening again is low to none. I'm going to dump more snails in there to make sure they always have a food source this time. I still think they went for my shrimp due to the lack of snails for them to eat.
Kinda like the other night, one of my crystal reds grabbed one of my snowball babies and started eating it alive. I thought that was kinda scary too! Haha...
If you look at it, there are no sides to this. We're not calling him a liar, we're just saying that unless you witness the whole thing from the very start and maybe somehow get some proof (video or at least some pics), than you can't expect it to be viewed upon as anything more than a rumor or myth.for what it's worth, I believe you, and appreciate the heads up! something to look for. if there is one thing I have learned in this hobby, it is that nearly anything is possible... and with the assassin snail still being very new to the hobby, much of it's behavior is still being learned right now.
so again... thanks for the heads up, and I will watch for this in my assassins as well!
I have witnessed this. Planaria and similar organisms (these snails included) are highly specialized. For simple purposes I'll keep it simple. What they do is similar to a spider, they inject the prey with venom, then suck out all the insides. Planaria are even poisonous to touch for shrimp and if you notice they do jump away at the slightest touch of a planaria.Unless you actually see the snail attack, kill, and start eating the shrimp you just can't be sure. People say they have seen planaria or hydra eating their shrimp as well but I don't recall anyone who actually witnessed the whole thing. I saw one of my CRS grab a planaria that walked by and started picking at it while the planaria was trying to get away. I have seen my juvi shrimp walk right up to a hydra, when they touched it they jumped away but then they continued on their way apparently unharmed.
Assassin snails could be able to eat shrimp, the cone shell is a marine snail that feeds off healthy fish. Unless you witness it though you just can't be sure, of course just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Yeah, but referring back to the subject in question, these snails are not specialized in capturing shrimps. That's why it's hard to believe, especially without proof.I have witnessed this. Planaria and similar organisms (these snails included) are highly specialized.
Can you point to us an article that says this about the snails since you did say "these snails included". I never knew assassin snails were poisonous, especially one designed to immobilize creatures that are fast like shrimps?What they do is similar to a spider, they inject the prey with venom, then suck out all the insides
I would think asking for evidential proof is anything BUT being silly. Carnivorous animals will eat prey animals, but assassin snails are not designed to prey on live healthy shrimps or fish to begin with.So guys open your eyes and stop being silly, carnivorous animals will eat prey animals end of story.
They can not puncture anything they basically liquify with stomach acid or something similar but it is not a poision. If they caught a shrimp they would insert their tube thru a ***** in the armor so to speak and work on it that way.Some snails, like the cone shell, have a harpoon like feeding device that it uses to spear the fish. The cone shell also has EXTREMELY potent poison so it kills the fish almost instantly before it can get away. If the assassin snails don't have a similar device I don't see how it would be able to actually catch and kill a shrimp before it would get away. I know they have a feeding arm but does anyone know if it can puncture anything? I have also not heard of any accounts of people saying that they are able to extend that feeding arm quickly enough to catch a shrimp.
Wow love to see where you got that one because I have seen my shrimp touch, walkover, nibble at and down right ingore them.Planaria are even poisonous to touch for shrimp and if you notice they do jump away at the slightest touch of a planaria.
Asking for proof and a confirmed report is not anything new nor to be unexpected. To say just because something is a predator it eats things so that is the way it is so deal with it is a little bit out there. I personally have never seen a Black Widow kill and eat a dog but according to your theory it does and we should just accept it?So guys open your eyes and stop being silly, carnivorous animals will eat prey animals end of story.