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Are there any good places to buy Bucephalandra and/or Crypts?

Should I just check ebay/amazon or are there any particular websites that you guys have ordered from before that are good?

This plant I think grows too slow for people to ever give it away.

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I’ve purchased plants from both places.
 

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Thanks. I will make an excel sheet and compare possible items. You can't get the good stuff at the big box stores.
 

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Just a reminder that vendor reviews aren't permitted. Cleaned up a few posts so no one runs afoul of forum guidelines.

I see Crypts & Buces for sale in the For Sale section all the time - so definitely start your search there. Someone recently posted an entire tank filled with Buces for sale. I bought 5 different kinds of crypts from someone last week.

Before ordering from any vendor mentioned, be sure to do some googling to check reviews that aren't posted on their websites. Sometimes vendors are terrible at shipping sensitive plants but great at others. Some vendors have worsened the Buce smuggling trade. Some have great tissue culture options. Some are just drop shippers with no real interest in the hobby beyond a well-manicured social media presence.

Two places I've frequently ordered tissue cultures from: Green Leaf Aquariums and Aqua Forest Aquarium. Also order my dry ferts from GLA. But forum members are always my first stop.
 

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Finding a local group on FB is really helpful. I recently went to a small fish and plant sell and right when I walked in there was a whole table of Kedagang, $5 a piece I almost asked them how much for the whole table…. Super healthy they had just came out of a tank that morning. I have kind of a buce problem… Like just a little bit 😅. My next tank is going to be an epiphyte jungle. Just buce, crypts, anubias, pinnatifida, ferns and mosses. I also shop buceplant and AQF when they restock I always order a few.
 

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Without doing a vendor review, I'll share this: Buceplant had their account banned on this forum a couple years ago for repeated smuggling and repeatedly providing falsified customs documents when asked for verification. That's not a matter that was taken lightly and the forum owners even turned down their sponsorship dollars.

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For anyone buying Bucephalandra, I really encourage you to put in effort to know where the plants you're receiving were sourced. Almost no one has tank farms because they're slow growing and when they do, they're sold on forums like this. If a vendor can't give you documents to prove they were legally imported and not merely marked as "toy" or "aquarium decoration", that's a big red flag. If they can't tell you about their source so you can verify their collection practices, that's the biggest red flag. Most of the Buce-centered Facebook groups are just doing large buys from people who destroy habitats and illegally smuggle the plants. They're too expensive otherwise. There's almost never phytosanitary documentation they can provide because it's not cheap to do things properly and, well, not possible if things aren't on the up-and-up. (But if they can provide documentation and you can verify they weren't illegally collected? Good to go.)

Fortunately, tissue-cultured Buces are becoming extremely popular and widely available. So definitely check those out whenever you can. And if you can't buy tissue-cultured plants or don't want to for some strange reason? At least try to get them from a fellow hobbyist who isn't directly importing or doing high-volume sales. That weakens the demand for (usually illegal) wild collection and destruction of habitats. The further we get from wild collection and can focus on tank-grown and tissue-cultured specimens, the better.

We could argue for days over the ethics of this but the destruction is real and the smuggling, as well. We all have the means to do better and we should if we want to sustain our hobby for generations to come.

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Since some unfortunately can't stop with vendor reviews, this thread is going to be locked but left intact.
 
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