[Jeffww]

http://www.microbubbler.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vprf3HcgZWc&feature=feedrec_grec_index

They seem pretty neat and work at pretty reasonable operating pressures.

 

[iKine]

Doesnt even look like bubbles. Looks like something on fire in your tank lol, so fine you get a smoke effect.

 

[DarkCobra]

LOL, it does. Never seen that many microbubbles before.

It does look somewhat similar to the Atomic diffusers, except in sheer size.

 

[Optix]

i always wondered...would an airpump be enough for an atomizer

well guess so

 

[jkan0228]

Atomizers require a PSI of about 30-35 so I don't think it would work with an airpump. And I'm not sure why you would use an airpump for an atomizer... An atomizer is used for CO2

 

[Jeffww]

Atomizers require a PSI of about 30-35 so I don't think it would work with an airpump. And I'm not sure why you would use an airpump for an atomizer... An atomizer is used for CO2

This is an airstone. Not an atomizer.

 

[jkan0228]

So is an automizer... I see it that an automizer is basically an airstone that is made for CO2 and had smaller holes for diffusion purposes... So you could pretty much use this "airstone" for co2 right? Don't really see any reason why not.

 

[robbowal]

I dont know how well this may adapt to a high pressure low gas volume situation for diffusing. From what i can see on the site its relying on a high volume of gas at lowish pressure to get the cloud effect of gas bubbles.
though it may be usefull for using in a sump to diffuse C02.

 

[willknowitall]

there are lots of these available just search oxygen diffuser on the net
they are ceramic just like glass diffusers can be used for oxygen and co2
how ever they need a pressurized tank or one kick ass air pump and the size of them make it impractical for co2

 

[Jeffww]

So is an automizer... I see it that an automizer is basically an airstone that is made for CO2 and had smaller holes for diffusion purposes... So you could pretty much use this "airstone" for co2 right? Don't really see any reason why not.

I'm saying that this is using a low pressure pump like 1-5 psi.

 

[jkan0228]

Oh my bad, so why is it that a low pressure can put out bubbles so small?

 

[Jeffww]

Oh my bad, so why is it that a low pressure can put out bubbles so small?

Actually nvm the pressure is a tad higher...My mistake

it says .7kg/cm^2 (youtube video) which translates to like 8-9 psi according to my gauge.No idea. I think this is supposed to be a fused alum diffuser or something. But the thing is 10 psi is really easy to attain with even diy co2.

 

[robbowal]

Oh my bad, so why is it that a low pressure can put out bubbles so small?

I guess its because the air pump is supplying around 100-200Ltr air an hour and with a continous flow of air through the micro pore structure it breaks up the bubbles into a micro fine mist.
but i am just guessing at that though.

 

[willknowitall]

a standard air pump kicks out 1 to 4 psi tops
these large oxygen diffusers, and theres lot of diffrent makers ,are meant to push a lot of air
not bps

 

[Jeffww]

a standard air pump kicks out 1 to 4 psi tops
these large oxygen diffusers, and theres lot of diffrent makers ,are meant to push a lot of air
not bps

Why won't they work? Wouldn't it be operational after enough time?

 

[willknowitall]

im not saying it wont work , im saying you only need a small diffuser area to diffuse bps, these are meant for diffusing lpm
they are cool though, practical for diffusing oxygen in a massive tank or sump at night i would think

 

[robbowal]

Ok let’s try this another way
This type of diffuser if you were to run it on Co2 you would need to run the tank wide open(no needle valve) for only a couple of seconds to reach 30PPM and then as that dissipated the tank would need to squirt again (this will put your Co2 levels all over the place).
This type of diffuser is designed for aerating large volumes of water continuously.
As I said the air pump is pushing around 100+Ltr per hour at a fairly low pressure (I imagine the pressure stated is back pressure) and when putting Co2 in a tank we only push a fraction of that amount of gas at a slightly higher pressure (due to the fact it is stored as liquid) through the tank over 12-14HRS
I guess what i am trying to say is its about volume and not pressure

 

[HypnoticAquatic]

i think it is pressure the same way as our diffusers work, we would just run a much lower ammount due to smaller tanks but if it was for a large tank i could work just like its shown.