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Any other engineers here? Anyone else regret their decision?

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Seriously, I've had to deal with this b.s. for the last 3 years. It is not fair that I take a class called data structures and algorithms and my roommate, who is "pre-law," gets to take a class about dinosaurs. It's not fair that my intro classes consist of all the calculus classes, and the lsa (regular) college kids take a class about global warming. Worst of all? The fact that a small percentage of these kids will actually make more money than me. I should have gone to b-school.
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Look on the bright side of life: When you graduate with an engineering degree, you will be able to find a job. On the other hand, if your degree is in some liberal arts hoopla like philosophy or poetry or "women's studies" (not what it sounds like either), well, good luck!
Or biology. Don't do biology. Got a master's and can't find a job in this area because I'm over-qualified. Go figure. I shoulda got an MBA instead.
But, for example, if you were to get a philosophy BA, you could easily apply to law school and get in. There is no set pre-law major, and therefore, as long as you had the grades, LSAT scores, and application essay, you can get into law school. Now, I'm not saying philosophy is easy (who am I kidding, yes it is), but I'm pretty sure my classes are at least 500 times harder. (To put it in perspective, I took an intermediate level philosophy class, did not attend any lectures or discussion, and got an A in it. I spent less time on it than any of my engineering classes and did the best out of all my classes. I also beat most of the kids in the class, including the ones that had this as a major.)
It'll pay off, literally, in the long run. I have a co-worker whose husband is an engineer, they aren't even in their 30's and are living quite comfortably. His job is even paying for him to get an advanced degree. Hang in there, it'll be worth it.
What kind of engineering??

I am Civil Engineer. Well worth it. The classes may seem bogus, but it helps to maintain an analytical mind. Dinosaur classes aren't going to help you any.

I have no regrets.
pshhhhht, civ E. :p

Just kidding. I am now a CSE major (computer science engineering). I used to be a mechanical/bio-med. I took organic chem and decided against the bio-med, and I took statics, dynamics and vibrations, and almost took fluid dynamics before I decided that ME was not for me. For those of you who are younger: CSE sucks too. Be an IOE.
Not to sound too pessimistic: Quit now.

You have already made up your mind that the easy way is the best way - so take it. You might be very happy.

If you don't see the value of the classes you mentioned to your degree, then you must not understand what an engineer is/does.

Just look at Minneapolis to see the importance of understanding EVERYTHING about bridges (specifically for civil engineers).

Yes, I'm coming from a slightly jaded view - hearing the above comments from a bunch of freshmen engineering majors over the years along the lines of "why do we have to take a year of chemistry" . . .

Even worse: "I want to be an engineer, but I don't like math"

Kevin
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I know that it CAN be worth it. Two of my roommates last year had job offers from Boeing, but turned them down in favor of grad school. One of them bought and Audi as a senior. I hate my roommates.
Okay, but do you WANT to go to law school? You have to do something you enjoy. All the money in the world isn't worth getting up and doing something you hate.
Just for future reference, pretty much everyone likes to make fun of engineers, especially their coworkers (geologists), myself included.
I'm an engineer from Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology - got a double major in Computer Science and Mathematics (and a Spanish minor) and now I'm working as a Software Engineer.

I gotta agree with KevinC - if you don't see the "cool" things about math, really love solving tough problems, find recursive algorithms to be fascinating or get some weird thrill out of compiling your code first time with no bugs, well... maybe you're not engineer material. That's nothing bad, but it does take a certain something different and odd to be an engineer. This is NOT a career to go into for the money.

As for getting job offers from Boeing... bleah. Getting the job is just a start. If you manage to get through school kicking and screaming and you STILL don't enjoy it, having some company pay you to do it isn't going to help. You get the job, but you still have to DO the job, and industry is about 10xs as hard as school (at least for me). You don't pass with a "C" anymore. If you miss a key concept then you're in big trouble.

Don't do something you don't enjoy. Passionate people can make a living at anything, it just depends on your drive and horsepower.
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I'm just about to finish my engineering bachelors. I'm on my 4th year Electrical Eng and is in the process of starting my Engineering design project. For me, the first 2 years of engineering is pure bs. I say that it's bs because you don't see where, why, how to use it. Once you hit 3rd year, you see why you study what you study. Once you hit 4th year, for me, most of it made sense. I can say that it's definitely worth it. You're almost done. A year or two will not hurt you much ^^.

Oh, btw, just because you're an engineer once you graduate, does not mean you actually need to do meticulous engineering work like school. There are a lot of engineering jobs that doesn't require you to do engineering. You can be an Eng lawyer if you want. ^^

Good luck.
Ahh, the suggestions of people who don't live in Michigan... :) I was CS Major (with a CE minor) from GMI (graduated in 04 officially). I had an offer to work in Virginia with a navel contractor, declined it since I wanted to stay in MI. I ended up working at Best Buy for 2 years until I could find something more along the lines of what I wanted. Now I love my job and am glad I stuck with it. My girlfriend keeps wanting me to goto law school to be a patent lawyer (only people with an engineering or computer science major can take the bar for them I guess). But under NO circumstances do I want to go back to school. I don't care if you make 150+0k a year only working 3 or 4 days a week.

As many have already said. If you don't enjoy what you're doing now (think more the projects you do, then the classroom work I believe) then you probably won't when you get to the real world.
I have a small anecdote that describes the social dynamic of engineers;
At UT, there is an engineering foundation called "Alec" and the engineers are very guarded about the meaning of "Alec" and all love wearing their "Alec" T-shirts. There is a opposing shirt that reads "Engineers snicker because they know what Alec is - Everyone else laughs because they know what sex is"

I'm sorry, i can't pass up a chance to rib on the engineers.
Just for future reference, pretty much everyone likes to make fun of engineers, especially their coworkers (geologists), myself included.
Making fun of people is usually a foundation for jealousy... :icon_smil :wink:

Make fun all you want...but remember when you get in your nice shiny car (designed by an engineer), turn the ignition (designed by an engineer), hear the engine start up (designed by an engineer) then drive on the roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, etc (all designed by an engineer), then go home and turn on the nice computer (designed by an engineer) to log on to this wonderful forum, that without any engineers your world would be just up your alley as a geologist...nothing but dirt. :wink: :flick:
Your car goes nowhere without the geologist. In addition to the aluminum for the car, the platinum for the catalytic converter, the copper for the wires, the quartz for the CPU.... :) We all need eachother, some people just draw more ire than others for their 'tudes.
Making fun of people is usually a foundation for jealousy... :icon_smil :wink:

Make fun all you want...but remember when you get in your nice shiny car (designed by an engineer), turn the ignition (designed by an engineer), hear the engine start up (designed by an engineer) then drive on the roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, etc (all designed by an engineer), then go home and turn on the nice computer (designed by an engineer) to log on to this wonderful forum, that without any engineers your world would be just up your alley as a geologist...nothing but dirt. :wink: :flick:
hmmm...
Im training to be a designer, heres me thinking designers designed stuff! :p
if you don't see the "cool" things about math, really love solving tough problems, find recursive algorithms to be fascinating or get some weird thrill out of compiling your code first time with no bugs, well... maybe you're not engineer material.
It's not that I don't enjoy that stuff. It's just that I don't enjoy being up until 4 am every night. When I figured out hash tables, it blew my mind. I just didn't like the fact that I'm still awake when my girlfriend wakes up.

I have a small anecdote that describes the social dynamic of engineers;
At UT, there is an engineering foundation called "Alec" and the engineers are very guarded about the meaning of "Alec" and all love wearing their "Alec" T-shirts. There is a opposing shirt that reads "Engineers snicker because they know what Alec is - Everyone else laughs because they know what sex is"
See, that's part of the problem, because I do know what sex is, and that makes it hard for me to get work done. ;)

In my experience, you can either have a life or be an engineer. I used to have a life. Now I'm an engineer. But I'm not a very good one, so I still kinda have a life.

For anyone wanting to talk smack to engineers: take one of my classes. I'll gladly take one of yours.
From a grunt who regrets not getting a degree in anything ... never mind in anything IMPORTANT.

Do you want to be a producer or a parasite?

Engineers produce ... there are other people (professionals and grunts) who produce as well but, for sure, engineers are producers.

Do not worry about what's hard or easy to get into.
Do not worry about what pays the most.
Do not worry about what your parents, friends, etc. say.
Do what makes you want to get up in the morning, anticipating what your workday will be like. If you do that, everything else will take care of itself.

Gosh, I sound like a bitter old man, don't I?

Keep Smilin'
John :)
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