Another NYC Shrimper.

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gnikwoc

Discussion Starter · May 16, 2014 (Edited by Moderator)

I didn't want to thread hijack a recent similar problem sounding thread;
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=640090

So here goes;
I'm also an NYC (trying to be) shrimp keeper. I think I have a similar problem rto the linked thread - I'm also am not sure I have any shrimp left

I have a 15 gal C02 injected tank, 1-2 BPS.
Tap Water.
I dose EI.
I have 0 Nitrates,
Nitrate is around 30-40ppm
KH is between 0-40ppm
Ph 6.5-7.0
My GH is inbetween 0-30 ppm.
I do not have tds meter but I 50% weekly change as per EI
I'm trying to keep PFR and Amano.

All were drip acclimated over 2 hours.
Initially the amano where VERY active, it didn't seem right. even after a week.
PFR hid away, rarely saw them.

I'm guessing this is potentially also due to low GH - so my questions are.

What's the suggested way to solve this? Equilibrium?
What advice to fellow NYC shrimp keepers have?

Also a recommended TDS meter?

And lastly just terta test kit ofr GH/KH reading - I have test strips which is annoying as thhey ppm and don't seem to be of a nice translatable scale.

Thanks for reading this essay!

Oh and lastly. I have noticed that I have detritus worms in my tank.

I eradicated them previously with very high c02 for a few hours (pre shrimp)

But was wondering if the odd shrimp behavior and random deaths could also be parasites. I bought some Paraguard just in case.

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Monster Fish

· #2 · May 16, 2014

How can you have zero nitrate but dose for EI? Raise the GH with any of the available shrimp remineralizers. I use the HM TDS meter with the built in thermometer.

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agro

· #3 · May 16, 2014

gnikwoc said:
I didn't want to thread hijack a recent similar problem sounding thread;
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showthread.php?t=640090

So here goes;
I'm also an NYC (trying to be) shrimp keeper. I think I have a similar problem rto the linked thread - I'm also am not sure I have any shrimp left

I have a 15 gal C02 injected tank, 1-2 BPS.
Tap Water.
I dose EI.
I have 0 Nitrates,
Nitrate is around 30-40ppm
KH is between 0-40ppm
Ph 6.5-7.0
My GH is inbetween 0-30 ppm.
I do not have tds meter but I 50% weekly change as per EI
I'm trying to keep PFR and Amano.

All were drip acclimated over 2 hours.
Initially the amano where VERY active, it didn't seem right. even after a week.
PFR hid away, rarely saw them.

I'm guessing this is potentially also due to low GH - so my questions are.

What's the suggested way to solve this? Equilibrium?
What advice to fellow NYC shrimp keepers have?

Also a recommended TDS meter?

And lastly just terta test kit ofr GH/KH reading - I have test strips which is annoying as thhey ppm and don't seem to be of a nice translatable scale.

Thanks for reading this essay!

I don't suggest test strips. Theres a few tables that converts ppm, api has one online. TDS would be highly recommended.

There's multiple things that aren't right.
You EI dose, this is just a nono for shrimping.
You're GH converts to 1.6dgh if I'm right, thats going with 30ppm. Neos prefer much higher than that. Tap water is sorta okay, unsure what's in your tap or how badly it contains metals. Shrimp sensitive to nitrate, should be as close to 0ppm as possible. When you change water you should be dripping into tank as you would drip acclimate.

Also an NYC beginner shrimper, good to read as much as possible before diving right in.

Check in shaded areas of tank, they seem to crawl into hiding spots and submit to death rather than out in the open.

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gnikwoc

Discussion Starter · #4 · May 16, 2014

Sorry. That was a typo. Nitrite is 0ppm. I thought that Nitrate wasn't an issue. There seem to be many shrimpers doing EI with no problems. Or is this abnormal? I never knew that one should drip for a water replace. Sadly doesn't seem like a practical option for me. I am looking to setup up a separate tank, Low tech for shrimps hopefully that would have more luck. Trying to raise GH now with equilibrium as that's what I have. Ordered more test kits and a tdm meter. Thanks for both your inputs. I just saw some amanos still around. But I think all my PFRs are dead now

An expensive learning experience so far!

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Monster Fish

· #5 · May 16, 2014

You can dose EI with shrimp as long as you do the water changes each week. Personally, I don't do drips for water changes with my shrimp tank since it takes too long. I usually prepare my new water before the water change so that the TDS matches up with my target GH and KH. From there I remove the water from the tank and add the remineralized, new water to the tank with a plastic watering can while being careful not to disturb the substrate.

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Rockadoodle

· #6 · May 16, 2014

Lots of help hitting from all over! Def helpful for the new 15gal I'm setting up.

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gnikwoc

Discussion Starter · #7 · May 16, 2014

Monster Fish said:
You can dose EI with shrimp as long as you do the water changes each week. Personally, I don't do drips for water changes with my shrimp tank since it takes too long. I usually prepare my new water before the water change so that the TDS matches up with my target GH and KH. From there I remove the water from the tank and add the remineralized, new water to the tank with a plastic watering can while being careful not to disturb the substrate.

Thanks, this is what I was planning on doing. All your input is appreciated. I think raising the GH as I have been doing (slowly) is potentially working. I saw 2 shrimps that I hadn't seen in ages. Pity I hadn't done this earlier.

Thanks!

On a side note, the incredible softness of NYC water seems a boon for Erios. I got one and it has had ridiculous growth in the last month, while other plants have struggled (I *think* also CA/hardness related).

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