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Hey all,

first post on The Planted Tank!

I currently have a 20gal tall tank, similar to the standard 20 gal you'd get at petsmart. I have a filter that came with the tank that mounts inside the tank and i have it centered in the back to allow even circulation. I covered the bottom grate intake with window screen that I fixated with a rubber band to prevent my blue velvets from getting sucked in. Actually installed it after a neon tetra got sucked up by its tail...
I had the standard hood with the incandescent light bulb holder that rests on it originally, but soon replaced it with a fluorescent, plant-max bulb to promote plant growth, and mounted LED's from auto-advance under the lid to add more light. they are good 'ol white LED's, very bright.
I removed several of my fish, including standard zebra danios as they killed some of my blue velvet neos.
I currently use ferts, mainly API, and "liquid CO2", also from API.
I have java moss and some anubia-type plants. also, I have tried/am trying to carpet dwarf hairgrass, but currently can't afford a CO2 system.
I use light colored gravel, about 2 inches deep

So here are my questions:

If I want to make this primarily a shrimp tank, what should I do about lighting? how will that affect my plants?
What lighting will promote shrimp activity, breeding, etc.?
What plants are best for that lighting?
what plants grow well with liquid Co2 and ferts only?
I would love to carpet, what plants would be best for that? or should I just give up on carpeting until I can afford a Co2 system?

P.S. I dose half-of-prescribed dosage for ferts-- spread out over a week, so i dose every other day.
I dose liquid Co2 every day- 1ml I believe.
I am currently on vacation till saturday and I don't have exact measurements in my head for dosing. I can update later if anyone needs that info.

Thanks a bunch for ideas and advice!
 

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Hey all,

first post on The Planted Tank!

I currently have a 20gal tall tank, similar to the standard 20 gal you'd get at petsmart. I have a filter that came with the tank that mounts inside the tank and i have it centered in the back to allow even circulation. I covered the bottom grate intake with window screen that I fixated with a rubber band to prevent my blue velvets from getting sucked in. Actually installed it after a neon tetra got sucked up by its tail...
I had the standard hood with the incandescent light bulb holder that rests on it originally, but soon replaced it with a fluorescent, plant-max bulb to promote plant growth, and mounted LED's from auto-advance under the lid to add more light. they are good 'ol white LED's, very bright.
I removed several of my fish, including standard zebra danios as they killed some of my blue velvet neos.
I currently use ferts, mainly API, and "liquid CO2", also from API.
I have java moss and some anubia-type plants. also, I have tried/am trying to carpet dwarf hairgrass, but currently can't afford a CO2 system.
I use light colored gravel, about 2 inches deep

So here are my questions:

If I want to make this primarily a shrimp tank, what should I do about lighting? how will that affect my plants?
What lighting will promote shrimp activity, breeding, etc.?
What plants are best for that lighting?
what plants grow well with liquid Co2 and ferts only?
I would love to carpet, what plants would be best for that? or should I just give up on carpeting until I can afford a Co2 system?

P.S. I dose half-of-prescribed dosage for ferts-- spread out over a week, so i dose every other day.
I dose liquid Co2 every day- 1ml I believe.
I am currently on vacation till saturday and I don't have exact measurements in my head for dosing. I can update later if anyone needs that info.

Thanks a bunch for ideas and advice!
I'm not sure if lighting makes a difference but you could always get one of those dimmable lights like the finnex 24/7 or Sattalite Pro Plus

One thing i know shrimp love for sure is the java moss, i super glued some java moss to a black sponge and they love picking at it, it seems there is some type of microorganism they prey on inhabiting that area.
For CO2 you could try DIY citric acid co2 it's actually really nice and you can turn it off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JzvfHO31Ug


If you're going to do a carpet you should be ready to have some supplements of Iron and other nutrients plants will need, i don't think dosing co2 would be enough for all those plants so you may need a co2 system. One of my major flaws when i had RCS was keeping my pH balanced so make sure you always check that weekly :grin2:

As for breeding, honestly i got lucky. I quickly removed my tetra in my tank while i had some babies and put some mesh around the filter so they won't get sucked in. I had 2 blue diamond shrimp and they ended up mating :)
 

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If you want a shrimp only tank, lose the fish and add a sponge or panty hose to your filter. baby shrimp are TINY! and window screen will not be sufficient to save them from getting sucked in.

As far as what plants to keep, I've found it doesn't really matter much, as long as they have a place to eat micro fauna from they will be fine (don't think they don't do well with supplemental feedings though). Most people (myself included) have java moss in their tanks, however the more I observe them the more I'm convinced shrimp just like plants/areas with a lot of surface are, places I find shrimp most often are in java moss, floating plant roots, myrio or other fine leafed plants, dirty tank glass (I only scrape the viewing sides of the tanks so lots of biofilm grows on the other 2 sides), and sponges. While I mat see them there more often it's not an overwhelming large difference, I still see shrimp all over the tanks, driftwood, rocks, ornaments, other plants, etc. Plant the plants you want and let the shrimp do their thing

The biggest things I've found are keep them safe from losing baby shrimp and FEED THEM (I use hikari algae wafers, but they will eat pretty much anything). If you feed them decently they can easily breed to achieve population densities of 10 or more per gallon
 
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