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I was looking at using the Green Brighty Series from ADA and was wondering your thoughts on them or on using someone else for ferts.
 

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Well, honestly, i used both dry and liquid ferts.
I am currently using the ADA green brighty series and could not be happier! I think they are awesome and super easy to use.
I use to use dry ferts and i didnt like measuring and mixing ferts, i found that the dry ferts are also good. I just didnt like the measuring.
I have heard that pfertz are also good, but i havent tried them yet :p
 

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Pfertz and ADA green brighty series are the 2 Im looking at. I know dry fertsare cheaper but I would prefer to pay th extra cash for them already done.
 

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My best results are with Tropica Mastergrow....currently known as Aquacare. I also dose phosphate, potassium and nitrate for which I mix my own solutions.
 

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I've used ADA and pfertz ferts and couldn't see a visible difference so I'll stick with the pfertz for my small tanks since there low light (I don't dose every day) but dry dose my bigger tanks. I haven't used Tropica's products but at $30 for 500ml I doubt there is any real difference between them and ADA/Pfertz.

- Brad
 

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This tank is a 24G Nanocube. It was for SW but I am converting it to a pland tank. The light is 150W. Will that effect my fert needs?
 

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Where does one buy the Tropica mastergrow (aka Aqua Care)? I went to the web site and could find no way to oder nor any links to retailers.....
 

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Im still new at this and am trying to understand what ferts to use. This tank is a 24G Nanocube. It was for SW but I am converting it to a pland tank. The light is 150W. Will that effect my fert needs?
 

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With 150 watts of light over a 24 gallon tank you will need high CO2 and fert levels or you will end up with stunted plants and algae problems.

Despite the supposed "ease of use" liquid ferts are really a waste of money. It is so cheap to use powders and a three dollar set of measuring spoons makes it easy to measure them out. Why pay to ship water and a fancy plastic bottle when they don't contribute anything to helping your plants to grow?

Suggest you read the "Dosing Regimes" sticky in the Fertilizers and Water Parameters forum.
 

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I was thinking about trying dry ferts but l do like the ease of use cause I am lazy sometimes and wont feel like mixing up the powders. From what people have said on this thread I dont agree that they "don't contribute anything to helping your plants to grow". I will check out the DOSING REGIMES to see what it says.
 

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Despite the supposed "ease of use" liquid ferts are really a waste of money.
I would agree to a certain extent. But I don't know where I could find the dry ingredients and mixture concentrations that Tropica uses. Until then I will gladly pay for shipping "water".
 

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I think the point was "ease of use" and not the money issue, some people get side tracked easily.

What I did was order pfertz.com's NPK+M set and when it ran out I mixed my dry ferts in the NPK bottles since they were snazzy and easy to use tho over time I started just buying the M bottle's for micro's as I wasn't impressed with CSM+B. So now my habit is to dry dose my big tanks (I monkey with the exact dosing allot), pre-mix dry ferts in pferts bottles for the small tanks and use there "M"icro product for everything.

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I have my C02 already and what I need now is the ferts. I might do what Brad said and buy th pfertz or brighty series and then try dry when its all gone. If I don't like it I can just buy the refill bottles. Why do people say dry is better for the high light tanks?
 

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Nothing wrong with the Seachem line either. Their instructions are very easy to follow and I know quite a few people who use them religiously.

They all do the same thing at the end of the day, just a matter of convenience and money for some.
 

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I would agree to a certain extent. But I don't know where I could find the dry ingredients and mixture concentrations that Tropica uses. Until then I will gladly pay for shipping "water".
Element % By Weight
N 1.34
P 0.1
K 1.03
Mg 0.39
S 0.91
B 0.004
Cu 0.006
Fe 0.07
Mn 0.04
Mo 0.002
Zn 0.002
Density: 1040mg/L

There's something to get you started on the TPN+. TBH they're kind of lacking on the K+ (note it's listed as elemental N, not NO3). The rest is pretty much within bounds if you dose at 2.5ml/L weekly. How they stabilize the P is beyond me. Most of that can be achieved by some chemicals standard to the hobby, and if they aren't using them odds are some other major brand does. IMO with a little K2SO4 or Seachem K+ dosing on the side, this is the best product you could buy if you're going to pay for premixed.

The brighty series really is water. It's been analyzed over at thebarrreport.com, and it does cost at least 100-200x what you'd pay for dry. I honestly can't believe ADA even sells steps 1-3 without feeling a bit dirty.

-Philosophos
 
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