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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-22-2020, 05:36 PM Thread Starter
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Help - new Seachem Tidal 35 - sucks in babies...

We put a new Seachem Tital 35 HOB filter on a small tank. I Love it - huge pull out media basket makes it easy to clean, pump is in tank so it will restart if power stops for a moment. However, it has one major flaw... with no down-pipe to suck in water - there is not a way to put a sponge protector to keep babies out.
I just pulled out filter media tray/canister and found over 30 baby bristlenose plecos in it. All were alive somehow.
Any suggestions?
I'm thinking maybe small mesh on front of intake but it may get gunked up quickly or sucked in and break motor.
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Can you wedge some sponge down inside that cavity? Seems like the easy solution. So long as the sponge is a big piece it won't get sucked into the pump.


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Is there some way to turn the flow rate down? Can you for eg strangle the outlet by putting a small bore spray bar on it?

Otherwise a mesh (but how to attach it so it can be removed for cleaning?). A foam inside might still suck in babies but simply constrain them more.

OR buy simply an air driven foam filter and use that instead until the babies are large and strong enough not to get sucked into the big filter. Foam filters are very cheap.
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Fine mesh window screen glued on with silicone should work.


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Can you wedge some sponge down inside that cavity? .
The intake is both underwater and a skimmer so I struggled to get a sponge filter wrapped around it.

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Is there some way to turn the flow rate down? .
Tried but didn't stop them.

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OR buy simply an air driven foam filter and use that instead until the babies are large and strong enough not to get sucked into the big filter.
Our parent plecos are the best baby makers ever so I'm not sure we will ever be without babies. We have platty too that always breed.

Our temporary solution was to put a stocking over the intake. As soon as we put it back on the tank, baby plecos started to come onto the part the puts water back into the tank - swimming upstream. I guess this explains how they got past the propeller without injury.
We added an extra filter pad to (maybe) keep the babies in the tank.
Not sure if this will work or not but we are watching the little guys.
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Simple mesh screen across the skimmer.

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Simple mesh screen across the skimmer.

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Our last couple of fixes failed but we tried this today. I'll see tomorrow morning if any babies are in. 🙂
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i second the window screen siliconed or crazy glued in place. I have several of those safety filters in place in my tank.
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2 of handiest products to have around for projects like this. Both dirt cheap, for $12 you’ll have enough for many dozens of projects.

Fiberglass window screen
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Phifer-3...3947/100390885

Plastic gutter guard
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Frost-Ki...X620/202518614

Basically I would take semirigid gutter screen and cover it with window screen, make a rectangular L shaped sleeve that will slip over that whole square input assembly, pump and all. By putting window screen over guard it, guard acts as standoff, basically whole outer surface becomes a large surface area mesh strainer, it will never clog. If you just put screen right on slots it has such a small surface area that it will be clogging every 5 days or so.

I would just use fireline black fishing line to tie screen onto guard.
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