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Put this together yesterday, I think it is the best parts I can find for a brass co2 system.

I finally located a 0.52 watt Parker Hannifin series 9 solenoid, it is the brass version though, so have to build this brass version co2 system with a brass Brooks instrument NRS metering valve(another rare find, a series one NRS metering valve with digital counter handle).

this style can be copied with the ideal series 2 angle pattern needle valve and manifold mounted clippard solenoid(which are both available on the evil bay). The key to make the brass system look good is to polish the brass until mirror shine.





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If you ship it too me I can put a beautiful mirror finish on it
To find the good parts and build it, is much more fun. if you decide to build, I will be a volunteer in the TPT CO2 task force to help you building a new one
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To find the good parts and build it, is much more fun. if you decide to build, I will be a volunteer in the TPT CO2 task force to help you building a new one
Thank-you. I currently have one of Flowerfish's gems. Of course it has been modified a bit...
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Rare Victor HPT160 nickle plated dual stage regulator
Burkert 200a 4W solenoid (two)
Swagelok 21 Series Metering Valve (two)


I have since changed the fittings to stainless Swagelok. The gauges were changed out to a slightly smaller series with more appropriate ranges (regulator is always set at 20psi).

And now the Whitey's are fitted to the outputs of the Porter flow meters (two) as I was not thrilled with the sensitivity of the Porter valves.


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Thank-you. I currently have one of Flowerfish's gems. Of course it has been modified a bit...
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Rare Victor HPT160 nickle plated dual stage regulator
Burkert 200a 4W solenoid (two)
Swagelok 21 Series Metering Valve (two)


I have since changed the fittings to stainless Swagelok. The gauges were changed out to a slightly smaller series with more appropriate ranges (regulator is always set at 20psi).

And now the Whitey's are fitted to the outputs of the Porter flow meters (two) as I was not thrilled with the sensitivity of the Porter valves.

The hpt160 is very rare. A custom dual output for you. after your modification, it would be look great. show some pictures.
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I've got my old 1950's Victor lump. It needs some work as it was originally a old HeliArc welder regulator on Argon. First plan is to find a CG340 stem for the reg body.


What is an economical solenoid and needle valve combo? My injection plan is to very low pressure stream into the suction side of one of the circulation powerheads. I am not really wanting to run high CO2 levels, just 10 to 15 ppm.

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250 gallon stock tank, "pond"
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I've got my old 1950's Victor lump. It needs some work as it was originally a old HeliArc welder regulator on Argon. First plan is to find a CG340 stem for the reg body.


What is an economical solenoid and needle valve combo? My injection plan is to very low pressure stream into the suction side of one of the circulation powerheads. I am not really wanting to run high CO2 levels, just 10 to 15 ppm.

Easiest...


https://www.diyco2regulator.com/co2-...body-kit-1-12v
https://www.diyco2regulator.com/cga-320-nut-nipple

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No it's just another payment type, not the only..



Sadly the Fabco component is out of stock.. so not available atm anyways.

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I've got my old 1950's Victor lump. It needs some work as it was originally a old HeliArc welder regulator on Argon. First plan is to find a CG340 stem for the reg body.


What is an economical solenoid and needle valve combo? My injection plan is to very low pressure stream into the suction side of one of the circulation powerheads. I am not really wanting to run high CO2 levels, just 10 to 15 ppm.
what is the model number of your victor regulator? is it a double stage?
If you are on a budget and the look of the co2 system is not a top priority, I might show you something that will work and work well from the evil bay, but you must have the tools and handy hands, to put together the parts yourself.

BTW, the old victor brass regulator will look really good if you do a good work polish it.


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https://aquariumplants.com/ideal-needle-valve/

Retail replacement for the Fabco.. only better (It should be right.. )

Useable, not nearly as precise as the 52-1.. but a lot cheaper..
https://www.radwell.com/en-US/Buy/IDEAL/IDEAL/52-2-11

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Ideal valve 52(brass)/54(stainless steel)--2 series, Part number 52-2-*, 54-2-*
Orifice: 0.0625"
Cv: 0.082 (at 20 turn, 22-24 turn full open)

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what is the model number of your victor regulator? is it a double stage?
If you are on a budget and the look of the co2 system is not a top priority, I might show you something that will work and work well from the evil bay, but you must have the tools and handy hands, to put together the parts yourself.

BTW, the old victor brass regulator will look really good if you do a good work polish it.
It has a Union Carbide made, ball-bearing indicator Cubic Foot per Hour flow meter with built in metering valve.

It's old enough that it looks like it was made in the 1950's, w/ green painted main body shell and brass metal face and rear dome/nut. Printed in raised lettering cast around the bezel of the front face, "VICTOR WELDING EQUIPMENT CO. SAN FRANCISCO CALIF"

I don't think it will polish up well as the biggest raw brass parts are the front bezel, "T" handle and rear acorn nut and it's got a lot of patina. I like this level of patina, it matches the use and scratches of the original green paint of the main body. This Argon TIG torch regulator is from a welder my father owned that I think he ended up with when mustered out of his job with Allied Petroleum in 1950, the welder looks like late 1940's tech.

Looks to me like a dual stage regulator. It must weigh at least 10 pounds if not more. It's pretty steam punk. Big ornate cast brass "T" handle for the pressure regulation. I'll try to get an image of it here.

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It has a Union Carbide made, ball-bearing indicator Cubic Foot per Hour flow meter with built in metering valve.


It's old enough that it looks like it was made in the 1950's, w/ green painted main body shell and brass metal face and rear dome/nut. Printed in raised lettering cast around the bezel of the front face, "VICTOR WELDING EQUIPMENT CO. SAN FRANCISCO CALIF"


Looks to me like a dual stage regulator. It must weigh at least 10 pounds if not more. It's pretty steam punk. Big ornate cast brass "T" handle for the pressure regulation. I'll try to get an image of it here.

This one..
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may be a victor VTS450, let's wait for the picture.

the flow meter and the valve on it, will not be used, they can not handle single digit sccm flow rate well.

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that is really antique! look like a single stage to me though, I have never deal with it before, but the dome in the back looks like the alternated inlet port cover.

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The hpt160 is very rare. A custom dual output for you. after your modification, it would be look great. show some pictures.
never have luck to get a hpt160, is it exactly the same spec as sgt160, only the different regulator body material?


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