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20 long filtration

Okay so i have a 20 long that has been set up for like a year and a few months now and its doing pretty good, however the filter is becoming a big pain. It is a EHEIM professionel 4+ canister filter and its giving me many problems. One major one is that the output is extremly slow compared to what it was out of the box to the point where it will stop sometimes. The spray bar is not 2 inches from my amazon swords and its so slow they grow algae on the leaves. Anyway another issue is that it is too tall for the shelf in my cabinet. To get it in and out for maintenance i have to tip it which brings another problem. It occasional leak (which should not happen with the design of the filter and how it is tipped). After my routine water change i was ready to blow it up with all these frustrations...so now that i'm done with my rant.
Any suggestions on filters, i would rather a canister filter, but it seems most are too tall. It would need to be 13in tall to be safe. I would like to try the fluval 07 series, as i have had luck with fluval in the past, but the 207 is a little over 14in so im not sure it would work cause idk how it is put together and things like that. So any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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No personal experience but the OASE FiltoSmart Thermo 100 could fit the bill. Right size and includes a heater. The 200 is 13.3" tall. So too big?


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For my 20 gallon, I run two Top Fin MF10 internal foam powerhead filters, which are fish and shrimp safe. They are about $13 each at PetSmart. They are cheap, symmetrical, have adjustable flow, and can be used with or without a spray-bar, or you can fit third-party tubes. I also use these filters on most of my other pico and nano tanks.

The filter foam block has an internal cylindrical space which comes with activated carbon, and a foam plug. You could use that space for other things if necessary, or just leave it empty.

I would be willing to pay more for a powerhead with an exposed sponge pre-filter, but every option I have looked at is bigger than this filter, and more power than I need.

As an old-building apartment-renter, I only window-shop canister filters, (or tanks >20 gallons), but I did research the OASE Biomaster Thermo 250 ($229), for one of my friends, and it looked great.

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No personal experience but the OASE FiltoSmart Thermo 100 could fit the bill. Right size and includes a heater. The 200 is 13.3" tall. So too big?
Yea id love to get the 200 but 13" is the max to get it in and out. do you think there is anyway to hook two of the 100's up together on the same intake and output?
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I am sure you could use some PVC and Barb fittings to combine 2 into a larger diameter return and intake. But it seems like overkill. The 100 is rated at 160 gallons an hour or 8 times turnover. That is the upper end of what you want for a planted tank. It will produce less of course but more than 4 times turnover which is the lower end of what you want. Honestly the 100 looks good.


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Okay thank you!
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There should be no need for more than the 100 on a 20gal tank, it’s 160gph max so about 8x tank turnover, that 160gph should really be split into two 80gph outputs for that long and narrow of a planted tank.
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