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A Tank Dump Of A Different Color

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Your CO2 is on and supplying your reactor nicely. Your canister filter (which provides the flow through the reactor) is plugged into a GFCI. While you are out, the GFCI is tripped. You return six hours later and reset the GFCI. What happens?
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Your CO2 is on and supplying your reactor nicely. Your canister filter (which provides the flow through the reactor) is plugged into a GFCI. While you are out, the GFCI is tripped. You return six hours later and reset the GFCI. What happens?
You realize you should of had your co2 plugged into the GFCI outlet along with the filter. Or for as many times as those GFCI outlets false trip, remove the GFCI and install standard outlet.
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You realize you should of had your co2 plugged into the GFCI outlet along with the filter. Or for as many times as those GFCI outlets false trip, remove the GFCI and install standard outlet.
That would be ideal and is a good lesson for those that have setups that can accommodate that. In my case, the regulator is in the basement, so combining both into one GFCI is not possible (all tank apparatus are plugged into a UPS which, in turn, is plugged into an inline GFCI). For me, the lesson is to never power-up the filter, after being off for more than a half-hour or so, without bleeding-off the reactor contents. Many a fish gave up their lives to teach me this.
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Many a fish gave up their lives to teach me this.
That is a bummer, sorry you had to loose your fishies.
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That would be ideal and is a good lesson for those that have setups that can accommodate that. In my case, the regulator is in the basement, so combining both into one GFCI is not possible (all tank apparatus are plugged into a UPS which, in turn, is plugged into an inline GFCI). For me, the lesson is to never power-up the filter, after being off for more than a half-hour or so, without bleeding-off the reactor contents. Many a fish gave up their lives to teach me this.
Ugh sorry to hear about your fish.

Going forward could you plug a power strip into your gfci and run everything including your co2 off of that power strip?
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You realize you should of had your co2 plugged into the GFCI outlet along with the filter. Or for as many times as those GFCI outlets false trip, remove the GFCI and install standard outlet.
I used to have random GFCI trips where my reef tank was and replaced it with GFCI/AFCI combo. Once I did that, it never tripped again except for when it really should have.
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I almost lost a tank of fish for somewhat the same reason --except I did it to myself. While cleaning tubes, rearranging and general fussing, I had turned down the filter but left the CO2 to the reactor on, came back and turned it all on only to find the fish near death in a short time! All did recover but it was close.
Amazing how many ways I find to shoot myself in the foot and a reactor full of CO2 is one of many!
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Old thread but I was looking for something and spotted this..

One thing people may or may not know is a GFCI is only needed on the first of a series of outlets..
That protects the whole string and of course all will go out if it trips..

http://www.electrical101.com/wpimage...ng-diagram.png
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I always use a powerstrip. You can use one or two. I have my filter, heater, CO2 on one. Then I have my lights on another. Though this is mainly for maintenance (I can turn off my filters but keep my lights on for water changes), the idea is keep your systems that work together on the same strip. That way, if something trips, everything on that system trips.

Also, the above post is very helpful for wiring. It wasn't on my tank but in my previous home, someone put GFCI's on the same circuit. One kept tripping but it was the last outlet on a string of 4. I figured out which outlet was feeding the next and replaced them with regular outlets. I wasn't trying to solve any problems, just trying to diagnose what was making it trip and found it stopped tripping when I set it up. Probably just a faulty GFCI but point being, it was very hard to know when you wire a bunch up when they are already in series. No electrical engineer, and I am not saying it is inherently bad to run GFCI's in series but it is unnecessary, and when you do have issues, it is much harder to figure out the problem.

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Sorry to hear!!!

Nothing is completely failsafe but this is one reason I use a GHL Controller.
When you spend years growing and caring for VERY expensive coral... you learn to do everything you can to prevent catastrophe, or at least catch it quickly.

I hope your losses are finished and your tank bounces back!

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