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Question Any Tariffs On Chinese Aquarium Goods?

Does anyone know what the tariffs are going to do to the aquarium hobby? Credible links only please.
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Some products may become more expensive...

Are you expecting someone to be doing studies on how the tariffs will affect the aquarium hobby or something? Especially on the freshwater side of things we're a relatively insignificant market. Honestly on aliexpress most of the time when I buy something they lie on the forms about what it is already, like it becomes a $10 aquarium light on the package. I don't think it's a big enough market for the govt to really give a crap. I suspect things like petsmart brand filters etc which are easier for them to track may increase in price.
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Be more concerned about food (highest impact of every person- governmental subsidies will not be sufficient in keeping down loss to farmers, consumers will have to pick up the difference in higher food costs), everyday household goods that are used daily: i.e. appliances., and automobiles ( parts made in china).

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Basically from what Iíve been able to gather the parts and components that may be used by American manufacturers to build products will go up considerably while by contrast imported fully assembled products using those same components to make say a finished led fixture will be mostly uneffected.

Iíve seen basically this happening in music equipment which is another of my hobby. Moog synth and effects based in North Carolina has discontinued a whole swath of their guitar/effects pedals because of rise in component costs inflicted by these tariffs. While the cheaper completely assembled competitive products fully assembled in China which have basically same functionality have remained largely untouched by the tarrifs.
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Basically from what Iíve been able to gather the parts and components that may be used by American manufacturers to build products will go up considerably while by contrast imported fully assembled products using those same components to make say a finished led fixture will be mostly uneffected.

Iíve seen basically this happening in music equipment which is another of my hobby. Moog synth and effects based in North Carolina has discontinued a whole swath of their guitar/effects pedals because of rise in component costs inflicted by these tariffs. While the cheaper completely assembled competitive products fully assembled in China which have basically same functionality have remained largely untouched by the tarrifs.
Makes you wonder how this is supposed to benefit Americans when this is the scenario doesn't it?

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Makes you wonder how this is supposed to benefit Americans when this is the scenario doesn't it?

I go out of my way to avoid buying anything made in china,but sometimes it seems impossible.If it were up to me the USA would be self sufficient like it was when I was a kid.

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We started to become a global economy after WWII- its been 70+ years in the making. Never going back, despite recent attempts at returning to some nostalgic age of "self-sufficiency" through tariff wars.
Sure, individuals or areas of the nation may have been more self-sufficient than others over these decades through choice or circumstance. But, as a nation- no.
Nevertheless, in the coming months to year :look for higher prices ( recently, I heard up to 25%) in food, everyday consumer household goods, medical expenses, clothing, and automobiles.

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Be more concerned about food (highest impact of every person- governmental subsidies will not be sufficient in keeping down loss to farmers, consumers will have to pick up the difference in higher food costs), everyday household goods that are used daily: i.e. appliances., and automobiles ( parts made in china).

Kind of counter intuitive. Because they cant sell as much to china, our home based food prices go up. Not to mention the amount of federal subsidies farmers get ..... ahh well.



I see what he is trying to do but the whole system has already been destroyed and its not going to change any time soon. They will raise prices on USA based products just because there is an excuse.



Would hope this would stop things like sending Harley frames overseas to be welded to save on labor cost or sending all our raw materials over to turn around and import POS junk made from it.



Probably wont however. What they need to do is require the imported materials to be manufactured by business's that are held to the same standards as local ones including benefits, pay, EPA requirements, OSHA, all that stuff.
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For all the fear mongering that is going on, it is interesting how it hasn't stopped people from spending. The credit card debt on the US debt clock continues to roll on as it has... https://www.usdebtclock.org/ What would life be like if people were not paying upwards of 40% interest on all of their impulse purchases?

I suspect China will blink first; they can't afford not to.
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For all the fear mongering that is going on, it is interesting how it hasn't stopped people from spending. The credit card debt on the US debt clock continues to roll on as it has... https://www.usdebtclock.org/ What would life be like if people were not paying upwards of 40% interest on all of their impulse purchases?

I suspect China will blink first; they can't afford not to.
Easy for you to say its all "fear mongering" when your not a farmer in middle America having to deal with the game of who will "blink first".

Thats how it is when your an armchair quarterback.

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Easy for you to say its all "fear mongering" when your not a farmer in middle America having to deal with the game of who will "blink first".

Thats how it is when your an armchair quarterback.
Name calling is always a effective way to have a conversation.

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Be more concerned about food (highest impact of every person- governmental subsidies will not be sufficient in keeping down loss to farmers, consumers will have to pick up the difference in higher food costs), everyday household goods that are used daily: i.e. appliances., and automobiles ( parts made in china).
I didn't cars and appliances were sprouted from the ground.
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I didn't cars and appliances were sprouted from the ground.
Brilliant.

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And when it gets down to the real facts, the price of consumer items is not really even in the top ten of idiot moves we are making. Ask why the folks with money are so interested in getting to Mars and you begin to realize that we have a very short time frame to get off this planet and find a new one before things totally collapse. I might guess at fifty years?
Look really deeply at what is driving any of the hot button issues and you realize there is very little chance for your grandchildren to grow up in a happy place and that the real cause is not even being discussed.
Any old farmer can tell you what happens when you try to keep too many of any animal on a given amount of land and then look around for somebody even talking about controlling rampant world population growth.
Heaven forbid that we stop breeding like rabbits, that would be immoral, so we prefer to stick our heads in the sand and kill everybody!
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And when it gets down to the real facts, the price of consumer items is not really even in the top ten of idiot moves we are making. Ask why the folks with money are so interested in getting to Mars and you begin to realize that we have a very short time frame to get off this planet and find a new one before things totally collapse. I might guess at fifty years?
Look really deeply at what is driving any of the hot button issues and you realize there is very little chance for your grandchildren to grow up in a happy place and that the real cause is not even being discussed.
Any old farmer can tell you what happens when you try to keep too many of any animal on a given amount of land and then look around for somebody even talking about controlling rampant world population growth.
Heaven forbid that we stop breeding like rabbits, that would be immoral, so we prefer to stick our heads in the sand and kill everybody!
Population control?- you might send the memo to those old white men in suits rolling back Roe versus Wade.

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Time to get back on topic: how many canister filters are manufactured in Asian factories? The first one that comes to mind are the Sunsuns.



Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Eheim outsource to Asia?



What effect would any tariffs have on filters?
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