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Pump water from basement

I’m looking for help trying to find a pump with decent head height but I would like to run the water through ľ” OD LDPE so it’s less intrusive to my floors. Knowing I’m using a fairly small tube high flow rate isn’t really an issue.

An alternative would be using a Danner Mag pump but from what I’ve seen the outputs are quite a bit larger. Would I run into issues sizing down tube from whatever they’re designed to run?
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Iím looking for help trying to find a pump with decent head height but I would like to run the water through ľĒ OD LDPE so itís less intrusive to my floors. Knowing Iím using a fairly small tube high flow rate isnít really an issue.

An alternative would be using a Danner Mag pump but from what Iíve seen the outputs are quite a bit larger. Would I run into issues sizing down tube from whatever theyíre designed to run?
1/4" OD? I can't think of any pump that has a decent head height with the size output. What are you trying to do?
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I’m leaving for a field study for five weeks and need to make getting warm RO from the basement to the display possibly for the old lady. I also want it for me to be easy but this excuse is how I’m getting away with the project. I’ll probably get chewed out if I drill anything larger that ľ” into the floor because I can easily hide that hole later on.
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Iím leaving for a field study for five weeks and need to make getting warm RO from the basement to the display possibly for the old lady. I also want it for me to be easy but this excuse is how Iím getting away with the project. Iíll probably get chewed out if I drill anything larger that ľĒ into the floor because I can easily hide that hole later on.
Do you get RO from the mains? That should be plenty to pump up one floor.
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Iím leaving for a field study for five weeks and need to make getting warm RO from the basement to the display possibly for the old lady. I also want it for me to be easy but this excuse is how Iím getting away with the project. Iíll probably get chewed out if I drill anything larger that ľĒ into the floor because I can easily hide that hole later on.
Why not bring up through the wall instead? Then the only hole is the drywall.

That's what I do. RO holding tanks in the basement. 1/4 HP submersible utility pump in one of the tanks.

PEX piping run inside the wall coming out right above the tank. Ran a drain line as well, with another pump always in the tank.

One switch to drain, one to fill. Works very, very well.
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Why not bring up through the wall instead? Then the only hole is the drywall.

That's what I do. RO holding tanks in the basement. 1/4 HP submersible utility pump in one of the tanks.

PEX piping run inside the wall coming out right above the tank. Ran a drain line as well, with another pump always in the tank.

One switch to drain, one to fill. Works very, very well.
I think that’s my option. Thank you. Hadn’t really thought of that yet.
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I think that’s my option. Thank you. Hadn’t really thought of that yet.
Here are some pics that might help.

Both pumps stay in the water full time. I ran switched power up to control basement pump. They do have remote control ones, but I just preferred a hard wire. In tank pump is controlled by switch in the stand. Water is pumped down to basement drain.

And never mind the drywall damage by the switch, won't be repaired until tank is moved as it is behind the canopy.





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Here are some pics that might help.

Both pumps stay in the water full time. I ran switched power up to control basement pump. They do have remote control ones, but I just preferred a hard wire. In tank pump is controlled by switch in the stand. Water is pumped down to basement drain.

And never mind the drywall damage by the switch, won't be repaired until tank is moved as it is behind the canopy.





I like it. I might go that way but with a wireless setup over wiring a switch.

What type pump are you using and do you recommend it?
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I like it. I might go that way but with a wireless setup over wiring a switch.

What type pump are you using and do you recommend it?
Here's the pump............................

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And yes I am very happy with it. It's about 14' up to the back of the tank, and does the job very well.


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What you want is a litermeter pump.

https://spectrapure.com/Basic-LiterM...ame=litermeter
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An option may be missed here. Depends on the age of the house but if it has some type of quarter round or base shoe to trim out the wall, it can be reasonably easy to hide a hole if you pull the trim away from the baseboard, drill carefully in that space and then you can run a larger tube, depending on how much the shoe will cover later.
So the question can become why and when you need to cover the hole. If in rental, this is a preferred way as there is no damage showing when the trim shoe is put back in place.
If you are an owner and just needing to avoid holes in really good flooring, another thought might help. A long bit, drilled at an angle, can go down through the sheet rock above the base trim and on down through the double layer of 2X inside the wall and come out in the basement below.
I might suggest using more like a 1/2 inch ID tube to get the job done a bit quicker. One can reduce the size of the outlet down to fit 1/4 inch but that leaves a pretty long term project if you change much water.
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An option may be missed here. Depends on the age of the house but if it has some type of quarter round or base shoe to trim out the wall, it can be reasonably easy to hide a hole if you pull the trim away from the baseboard, drill carefully in that space and then you can run a larger tube, depending on how much the shoe will cover later.
So the question can become why and when you need to cover the hole. If in rental, this is a preferred way as there is no damage showing when the trim shoe is put back in place.
If you are an owner and just needing to avoid holes in really good flooring, another thought might help. A long bit, drilled at an angle, can go down through the sheet rock above the base trim and on down through the double layer of 2X inside the wall and come out in the basement below.
I might suggest using more like a 1/2 inch ID tube to get the job done a bit quicker. One can reduce the size of the outlet down to fit 1/4 inch but that leaves a pretty long term project if you change much water.
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Always nice to watch progress happen. What are we seeing here? First floor tank and need to get the RO up from below?
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