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Which is a good, quiet canister filter?

I think I need to replace my HOB with a canister filter - because kuhli loach keeps trying to swim up the outflow.... tonight he got stuck in the netting I used to block it and I'm worried another day of this he is going to be a fatality. If I can't think of another way to block his attempts, I might go pick up a new filter tomorrow-

My local pet store has these external canister filters, I've never had one so I don't know what to pick. Any recommendations? I'm most concerned about how noisy it might be, or how prone to leaking. It's for my 38 gal.

Marineland Magniflow 160 or 220
Fluval 206 or 406
Hydor Professional 150 or 350
Penn Plax Cascade 700
API Rena Filstar XP1

Also, should I get one rated for a bigger tank than I've actually got? or trust what it says on the box. How much higher do you overestimate for filter size. It's been a long time since I had to buy one.

Thanks for any input.
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None of the above. Eheim 2217. I have tried many canisters. Ehiem is the quietest and most efficient and effective. Order online there are many places that have great deals. We are not aloud to promote nor degrade (lame imo) vendors hear on this forum. So it up to you to figure that out.

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I was just asking about the products- that's allowed, right?


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None of those, get an Eheim. I have Marineland, Fluval, Penn-Plax and Eheim canister filters and the Eheim is hands down the quietest of them all. It's actually so quiet when I first got it I thought it was broke when I first plugged it in because I heard nothing. I had to stick my hand down on the the head to make sure it was running.

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None of the above. Eheim 2217. I have tried many canisters. Ehiem is the quietest and most efficient and effective. Order online there are many places that have great deals. We are not aloud to promote nor degrade (lame imo) vendors hear on this forum. So it up to you to figure that out.

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Ok, thanks much that's exactly the kind of input I needed.. Further search there's another store nearby has the Eheim Professional4 + 250 it's rated for 32-65 gal so I'm assuming that sufficient for my tank?

I'm hoping I can just move into the canister the filter media I currently have in my HOB, and use the other fittings that came w/my sponge prefilter to somehow use that still as well.
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I think I need to replace my HOB with a canister filter - because kuhli loach keeps trying to swim up the outflow.... tonight he got stuck in the netting I used to block it and I'm worried another day of this he is going to be a fatality. If I can't think of another way to block his attempts, I might go pick up a new filter tomorrow
Have you considered using a prefilter? In the meantime you can wrap some sponge material around it if you have any or coarse media would work if you have anything like that.

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Marineland Magniflow 160 or 220
Fluval 206 or 406
Hydor Professional 150 or 350
Penn Plax Cascade 700
API Rena Filstar XP1

Also, should I get one rated for a bigger tank than I've actually got? or trust what it says on the box. How much higher do you overestimate for filter size. It's been a long time since I had to buy one.
The Magnaflows always looked too similar to SunSuns to me which are cheaper. I have no problem recommending a SunSun canister from Amazon--mine's been going strong for two years and its much quieter than my Fluval 306. Fluvals are overpriced and as I mentioned mine is far from quiet. I've only ever read about people having problems with the Hydors but then again I haven't looked at them very hard. Never heard anything bad about the Penn Plax Cascades or the Filstars but I don't know much about them either. You can't go wrong with an Eheim Classic.

Yes, you should overestimate the size of the filter. I always go for double what the manufacturer recommends.
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I was just asking about the products- that's allowed, right?
I think that's okay. But some moderators seem to be on the side of corporations instead of on the side of consumers. I would prefer not to be banned so I'll leave it there.

Buy an ehiem classic. You will never turn back. There is a reason the same design is still being sold 20+ years later!

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Have you considered using a prefilter? In the meantime you can wrap some sponge material around it if you have any or coarse media would work if you have anything like that.
I have a prefilter on the intake- that sucks water out of the tank.
The problem is the outflow- where water cascades off the biowheel back into the tank. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I do have extra sponge material, maybe I can fit some of that over the area- good idea.

Just don't know if it's the best fix long-term.


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Just another note I have two 2217's on a 70g. Nothing wrong with extra filtration.

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Buy an ehiem classic. You will never turn back. There is a reason the same design is still being sold 20+ years later!
Seriously. It'll last a lifetime and you can recoup some of your money if you decide to leave the hobby. These things last forever.


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Most of the cheap canister filters will be relatively quiet if you're using a lily pipe or forgoing the spray bar since they'll be no resistance at the outflow.

My cheapo Dophin is placed right beside my bed at the same level as my mattress. No spray bar attached although it goes into a CO2 reactor which also has minimal restriction to its flow rate.

No sleepless nights for me although it's not totally silent.
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Most of the cheap canister filters will be relatively quiet if you're using a lily pipe or forgoing the spray bar since they'll be no resistance at the outflow.

My cheapo Dophin is placed right beside my bed at the same level as my mattress. No spray bar attached although it goes into a CO2 reactor which also has minimal restriction to its flow rate.

No sleepless nights for me although it's not totally silent.
I was wondering the same, canister filters are supposed to be silent. May be I haven't came across a noisy one.
I own one Ehiem 2213 and two SunSun302, in terms of noise I have to place my arm on the body to check whether the canisters are running.

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I was wondering the same, canister filters are supposed to be silent. May be I haven't came across a noisy one.
I own one Ehiem 2213 and two SunSun302, in terms of noise I have to place my arm on the body to check whether the canisters are running.

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Well, I asked because I didn't know- my HOB has slight motor noise, I thought a canister might be more noticeable because it is larger? I also read about some people having leaks, which ruined their stand so I'm hoping to avoid that possible problem. Nobody's mentioned it so maybe it's a rare occurrence.

I got the most pressing issue fixed, now- cut a piece of coarse sponge thinly, and fitted it over the lip below the biowheel with a loop of fishing line. It doesn't seem to reduce the flow much and is keeping the fish out- he seems more inclined to pick at the sponge now, instead of trying to swim out. I don't want this here long-term- will have to remove it every time I service the filter- but now I don't feel like I have to go out and replace my filter immediately.

Thanks goodbytes for that idea!


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I found where I can get an Eheim Classic for a decent price (affordable for me, at least). The tubing and spray bar -in fact all the plastic fittings- are green. Don't they make one with clear tubing? Is it really noticeable when in the tank? I'm hoping it won't stand out a lot against a black background...


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I found where I can get an Eheim Classic for a decent price (affordable for me, at least). The tubing and spray bar -in fact all the plastic fittings- are green. Don't they make one with clear tubing? Is it really noticeable when in the tank? I'm hoping it won't stand out a lot against a black background...
This is my only complaint with Eheim. You'll have to buy lilly pipes or modify/replace that hardware if you don't like the green. Some folks say, who cares? but I go for trying to hide as much equipment as possible for a cleaner aesthetic. The green stands out against a black background too much for my liking

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