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Dwarf Crayfish with Dwarf Puffers?

Hey everyone.
My 10g is going to have 2-3 dwarf puffers.

Many people/websites say they will not bother adult RCS. Many people/wesbites say they will. So, I am going to try it with 1 or 2. If the RCS get eaten, oh well. Expensive snack and I will look at getting a couple Otos. If they don't get eaten, I may look into adding a few more.

Doing a little research last night I stumbled on Dwarf Crayfish. Anyone know if these are more or less compatible with Dwarf Puffers? In particular I am interested in the Orange and Cajun varieties.

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Not at all. Puffers are relentless and crays are aggressive. You'll have 3 dead puffers.


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Puffers in my experience enjoy any and every invert as a good meal. Keeping inverts in the tank for more than a few days just not gonna happen. When I had puffers, shrimp and snails were a regular part of their diet. Never tried with cherries, but they loved eating some ghost shrimp. Honestly I didn't have luck with otos either. The puffers would guard the tank and harass the otos anytime they moved, but I think this was more of an individual thing.

If you want the puffers I would recommend a species tank.
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I heard Otocinclus is a good tank mate for a dwarf puffer. Puffers seem to overlook them.


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Please don't put otos in a 10g. Otos need larger groups and a 10 gal is too small unless you just kept otos alone in it maybe.

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Totally agree 10 gal is not enough for otos. A 10 gal would only be enough for 2 otos unless you feed them on the side with zucchini and other veggies. I used to keep a CAE with my puffers and that was a great combo. They got along well but I had a bigger tank. A CAE will not make it in a 10 gal. But you might be able to put a rubberlip pleco in the tank with the puffers. Same scenario as the otos, a herbivore and the puffers, but no need to get more then one and a rubberlip will keep the tank spotless. No competition over food and the pleco sleeps inside a "cave" or other hiding spot during the day and comes out at night when the puffers sleep. Should work better than otos. Another option is a clown pleco but they are wood eaters and you would have to have real driftwood in the tank. The rubberlip is the better option as he does not require wood just a cave to call his own and an occasional treat of algae wafers or other sinking pellets, like tetra min tablets, shrimp pellets etc.

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otos will die off in any tank size
I have one guy that's hanging in there for several years now.


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Gotcha on the Otos. I do have a real piece of (pain in the ass, can't get it to sink) driftwood. From what I have read, most of the more colorful Plecos need larger than 10g. I.E. Zebra Pleco. Although, I could see if I can find a young one. Anyone know how long they take to get full sized to the point where you would need larger than a 10g?

I guess I am just going to have to hope the puffers won't eat the RCS. If that happens, I may try something larger like an Amano shrimp or Orange Dwarf Crayfish. If that doesn't work.... Well... I may end up upgrading my tank size earlier than I planned.
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That depends on the pleco. Most hypancistruses (like the L46 zebra) take close to 4 years to mature. L134s (peckoltia) about 2. BNs one year. Also what are you looking for in the pleco? If you want something to take care of the algae, the zebra will do nothing for you as that is a carnivore. You might want to check out L129. One of the smallest plecos but very pretty and a lot cheaper then the zebra.
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That is very nice. Algae eater? Where can they be purchased? How long do they take to mature? between 2 and 4 years I am planing on upsizing to a 40B tank anyway

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That depends on the pleco. Most hypancistruses (like the L46 zebra) take close to 4 years to mature. L134s (peckoltia) about 2. BNs one year. Also what are you looking for in the pleco? If you want something to take care of the algae, the zebra will do nothing for you as that is a carnivore. You might want to check out L129. One of the smallest plecos but very pretty and a lot cheaper then the zebra.
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Omnivore. Hypansistruses usually take around 4 years to mature but you can buy adults.
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There is one auction on Aquabid.com for L129. But they are often auctioned on that site. A nice looking small pleco that is not banned from export, so the asking price is reasonable. I would not get more than one for the 10 gal. Once you upgrade you could get a couple more as breeding them is not unheard of. I myself never had them before.

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Great. Thanks. Hopefully the shrimp work out and don't turn into an expensive snack. If they do I will be in the market for an another algae eater.
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