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Cherries dying off one by one

I have a small tiny group of cherries in a separate tank (5.5g) and I do about 20% water changes each week. My question is, why are they dying? I don't add ferts to the water and the levels for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate are all 0. I may also add that pH is around 7. There is planaria in the tank and I've been trying to get rid of these guys by trying to lower the amount of food I add to the tank/doing water changes? Does anyone know what's going on?
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How long has the tank been set up? I know you said you're feeding but is there plenty of biofilm?
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TDS, GH, KH? Without those parameters, hard to help. From your limited description, I might guess bad molts. As for the planaria, reducing food alone probably won't eliminate them. Fenben is effective at killing planaria (see here https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3522017&postcount=1 )


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This just really happened on me last weekend. MY Fire Red died from #20 (wihtout counting all shrimplet) to now #5. The symplom is that... they were all up side down... moving around (with upsidedown as well)... What I did was to do water change. I did 1/2 tank change and did this for over 3 days. NOw the shrimps had only 5 left. Finally I moved them to where my CRS tank is. They are very happy... couple of "flipping" now come alive again.

My guess is my armonia went up after the change from my bigger filter to a smaller clip on filter... My tank is still there and i will check the parameter there....
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usually the case is related to ammonia..

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Changing from a cycled to uncycled filter is an obvious issue. That doesn't seem to be OP's issue. "one by one" sounds like deaths over a longer period of time than an ammonia spike would cause. And OP specifically indicated 0 ammonia. Again, I would like to know the GH, KH, and TDS. I have seen a number of "shrimp dying one by one" posts where the poster does not list GH and KH. Later it turns out the water is far too soft for the shrimp when they measure those parameters.


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Changing from a cycled to uncycled filter is an obvious issue. That doesn't seem to be OP's issue. "one by one" sounds like deaths over a longer period of time than an ammonia spike would cause. And OP specifically indicated 0 ammonia. Again, I would like to know the GH, KH, and TDS. I have seen a number of "shrimp dying one by one" posts where the poster does not list GH and KH. Later it turns out the water is far too soft for the shrimp when they measure those parameters.
I come from Virginia Beach and move over to Richmond to attend classes at VCU. I've been using the tap water since cherries aren't necessarily needy of R/O water. As for TDS, GH and KH, I don't have kits for them. If this is an issue then I'm going to order some kits soon to see if these are causes. What are acceptable conditions for these three water parameters?
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Cherries are a neo, so with the range of conditions acceptable to neos. Might want to look around a bit on this forum.

Neos can handle fairly hard water. Anything less than around 150TDS with 5-6GH, and they might start running into molting issues. Tap water can be softer than that. Recently tested Sacramento, CA tap at 50tds.


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