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What types of leaves

What types of fruit tree leaves and hardwood trees are used in tanks. And what do shrimp prefer more?

I know indian almond leaves, peach tree leaves, oak, mulberry and banana leaves but what other leaves can be used with no ill side effects and beneficial. What do shrimp go after the hardest?

My shrimp ignore the indian almond leaves and alder cones. And I have a bunch of trees in my back yard, never use chemicals or pesticides. Only manure for fertilizer and everyone once in a great while 16-16-16 fertilizer.

I have guava, peach, apple, grapefruit, lemon, pear, tangerine, and orange trees.

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They really don't go after the leaves it is the beneficial traits of the leaves. As in a natural anti bacterial, a place for bio film to build they can graze on. You can add cherry tree leaves to that mix, I use them as well


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My friend uses oak and silver maple leaves. They do break down faster than other leaves though
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I know they go for the bio film and mis robes that grow on the leaves. But I have seen shrimp chow down on the leaves as well. That's good to know about the cherry and silver maple leaves. What about any other guys!

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I have never seen shrimp chow down on any leave like those. No boiled and blanched mulberry or stinging nettle or spinach. Yes

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I went to a friends house and he uses peach leaves. Let's them soak for a day drops them in the tank and the shrimp are all over them. There usually gone within a few days.

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My shrimp will eat the Indian almond leaves once they start to break down
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Do you blanch the leaves first? Can you use ANY oak leaves? I have , what feels like a million come fall, in my back yard .
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As long as there are no pesticides used in or around the tree they will be fine. You have to let the leaf dry out completely. Then soak it, not boil or blanch it

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I have used a variety of local and exotic leaves. I mostly use Indian Almond leaves with a few local oak varieties (scrub, black, red etc) thrown in. As for fresh leaves, I think Mulberry right off the tree are considered a delicacy by many shrimp.
The shrimp eat the algae and bacteria that break down the leaves. It is best to add leaves every couple of weeks so that you have leaves in various stages of decomp. If you have big colonies, that time will be reduced greatly.
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Dont mean to hijack this thread, but in terms of indian almond leaves, will my crushed coral in the filter be enough to negate its ability to lower ph? I wont worry about tannins as i have researched that one leaf cant do much in a larger body of water (planning to us them in a 20 gallon cherry shrimp tank).

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Dont mean to hijack this thread, but in terms of indian almond leaves, will my crushed coral in the filter be enough to negate its ability to lower ph? I wont worry about tannins as i have researched that one leaf cant do much in a larger body of water (planning to us them in a 20 gallon cherry shrimp tank).
I doubt one indian almond leave would affect Ph much in a 20 gallon, and the kh buffering of the arogonite would obviate any ph lowering effect.

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Ial will not alter ph enough to worry unless you are sticking tons in there


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I have a ten gallon and when I use one large ial my ph never changes. It's only if you add tons or leaves. Same thing happens with a huge piece of Malaysian dw.

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I use guava leaves...straight from my yard, seems to have a lot of beneficial bacteria.
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