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Water Hardness, TDS and Tiger Shrimp

So this is my first post on this site since being inspired by the tank designs to put together a 20gal high planted tank, and I know y'all can help me out. I've got my tank setup with a substrate of seachem flourite, a 24in odyssea T5 HO fixture with a 10k bulb and one 6k bulb, an aquaclear 50 filter, a 100watt submersible heater, a DIY nutrafin CO2 system, and lots of plants. It's been running for just over a month now. I have neon tetras, leopard cories, glowlight tetras and X-Ray tetras. All my fishes are bright, active, disease free and seemingly happy. I mean I have no way to judge whether a fish is "happy" by any means. Anywho, I want to add some tiger shrimp as the final item on my awesome tank list but I'm concerned about the hardness of my water. I stupidly setup my tank with dechlorinated tap water before remembering that you don't need concrete mix down here, you just add mud and tap water. Here's a breakdown of what I'm talking about....

I've got my Ph down to 7.1 by doing water changes with DI water, but the test strips still show my water hardness to be down at the hardest it will register. What can I do?
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first off i would not add any shirmp. your fish will eat them. second i would get liquid test strips go bad really fast after opening and they have been known to give bad readings. 3rd if your set on shrimp i would go cherry because of how cheap they are. if they make it you might think about another type but no sense wasting money if 3 months later the fish realize there is live food in the tank. you also need to find out if they use chlorine or chloramies in the water. if they do you will need to use a dechlore or it will kill the fish
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I've actually had four ghost shrimp in the tank the whole time and the fish haven't bothered them at all (small ones too, the largest is only about an inch and a half). In fact the shrimp make a point of stealing the pellets I feed to the cories. I'm still set on getting the tigers and moving the ghost shrimp to a smaller shrimp only tank I'm setting up. Are you sure the hard water won't kill them? The tiger shrimp that is.
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They don't attach the ghost shrimp because the blend in better and are supper aggressive. Adult tigers might be fine but they might pick at their limbs, and baby shrimp will be food for sure


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That's a bummer, I think the colors on the tigers would add that extra oomph to my tank to make it really stand out. I suppose I'll just have to leave the ghosts in and put the tigers into the shrimp only tank. (originally I wanted to put in a nepid ((hemiptera/heteroptera/nepidae)), but it would have eaten all my fish. *sigh* Why do all the cool aquatic insects have to be such perfect killing machines?
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I would suggest you let your tank grow "densely planted" and try some cherries. I have a 90 gallon with a 120+ cards and 8 big angelfish with cherries. The shrimp will learn to hide out in the plants and avoid the fish.


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I like that idea, but again... is the water hardness going to be an issue? If so, what can I do about it?
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I like that idea, but again... is the water hardness going to be an issue? If so, what can I do about it?
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where does your water come from a plant or natural source like a well? and you should run your own test cause it can very from month to month depending on the area around you due to water run off
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It's just plain water out of the tap. I'm assuming it gets treated at the plant South of town. I don't know of anybody around who has a well, though the local water sources are pretty bad. Loads of chironomids and zero plecoptera with only one or two of the hardiest ephemeroptera in the cleaner irrigation canals.
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