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Bee Shrimp Mineral GH+ and Mosura TDS Up questions???

I am setting up a Taiwan bee shrimp tank, but come up with some questions.


I know that Bee Shrimp Mineral GH+ gives me a gh 6 at 120TDS, but seems that most people have their tds between 150 to 180 for Taiwan bee shrimps. I just want to know how do they increase the tds or just leave it at 120. I am thinking about to use mosura TDS up to bring up the TDS to 150.

any place to order the mosura TDS up?

can I use them together?

any suggestion would be fine.

You help will be appreciate.
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Pretty sure you can use them both together.

You can get TDS up here:

http://www.theshrimptank.com/water-c...a-tds-up-40gm/

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how long has the tank ben cycling? for a Taiwan Bee tank 120 seems fine with me. it will increase slowing in time.
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Don't stress over TDS, I'd say 120 TDS is totally acceptable as long as your gh are in the proper range.
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the tank was 3 weeks old. I will wait for a few more weeks. it's a 7 Gallon tank with 3 inch thick of ada soil with eheim 2232. ph is around 6 or lower. use pure R/O water and Bee Shrimp Mineral GH+ at this time. I have some red rili, fish and a lots of plant floating on the tank to help cycling.
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All of my tanks are started at GH 5 and TDS 120. Over time the TDS creeps up. This is due to shrimp/snail poop, food, various debris. So starting a tank with those params and winding up at TDS 170-200 sounds about right. It's what happened with all of my tanks


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All of my tanks are started at GH 5 and TDS 120. Over time the TDS creeps up. This is due to shrimp/snail poop, food, various debris. So starting a tank with those params and winding up at TDS 170-200 sounds about right. It's what happened with all of my tanks

that make sense. from time to time. TDS will goes up a little by little.
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Table salt raises TDS but not hardness. Or you can buy table salt labeled as a shrimp product. Whatever works for you!

I knew plants tend to lower TDS as they soak up Ca and Mg and others from the water. Now, it depends how much plant mass you got and what type. slow growers will not take noticeably much out of the water.
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Table salt is NaCL, you don't want either of those in your tank.
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thank you guys for all the info. I will only use Bee Shrimp Mineral GH+ at this time and see if they like it or not.
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I switched from fluval shrimp remineralizer to salty shrimp and had found great success
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Table salt is NaCL, you don't want either of those in your tank.
Care to expand on the reasons? Haven't heard of Sodium or Chloride harming shrimp before. I use Calcium Chloride to remineralize RO water for all my tanks. Bumping TDS using table salt is harmless from all points of view, I'm curious as to why is not such a good idea.
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Adding table salt will mess with their osmotic regulation adding unneeded stress to the shrimp. Normal table salt also often anti-caking agents which can be detrimental to the health of your aquarium.

High levels of Sodium are not good for your plants and many fish (especially softwater species), this is why you shouldn't use water from a typical water softener (the ion exchange ones that replace Ca and Mg with NaCl).

Chloride isn't a as big of a deal but I have read some stuff on it causing problems in higher concentrations.
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