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Red cherry shrimp coloration

Hello shrimp keepers! I am a newbie at this hobby, but know a good about of info on red cherry shrimp.

So today, I saw that one of my big females ( big means old, right?) has a very pale red color. She always had the pale red on her when I got her, like 1 month ago. What I'm worried about is that she is pregnant, and so when the babies hatch and mature, will the babies also be pale, or possibly have a chance at being a more redder color? Right now, I have about 10 shrimp,so I'm trying not to cull her, but if i have to, for the sake of redder coloration in future generations, I will.
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as far as I know currently we don't know enough about shrimps genetics to determine those kind of things. Best thing to do is line breeding for a brighter red is let them breed and cull the ones that aren't moving you closer to your goal

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as far as I know currently we don't know enough about shrimps genetics to determine those kind of things. Best thing to do is line breeding for a brighter red is let them breed and cull the ones that aren't moving you closer to your goal
So basically leave them in the tank to breed and then just cull the ones I don't like? And what is line breeding for a brighter red mean?
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So basically leave them in the tank to breed and then just cull the ones I don't like? And what is line breeding for a brighter red mean?
line breeding: pick the brightest male and female, and then breed their offspring together, again picking the brightest ones.
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line breeding: pick the brightest male and female, and then breed their offspring together, again picking the brightest ones.
Another way to do it (assuming only one shrimp displays the coloration you are breeding for) is to cross that shrimp to another lower grade one, then take the best of the resulting offspring and breed them back to the original higher grade one. Doing this multiple times allows your to select for recessive traits that only one parent possessed quicker than traditional line breeding
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Everything said thus far is true.

I will say that the easiest way for the average hobbyist to do selective breeding is what you already understand: "basically leave them in the tank to breed and then just cull the ones I don't like"

This allows you to enjoy your shrimp while continuing to strive for your goal.


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Another way to do it (assuming only one shrimp displays the coloration you are breeding for) is to cross that shrimp to another lower grade one, then take the best of the resulting offspring and breed them back to the original higher grade one. Doing this multiple times allows your to select for recessive traits that only one parent possessed quicker than traditional line breeding
Haha I did not understand what you just said. I'm still very very new to this hobby, so please simplify it to newbie terms.
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Everything said thus far is true.

I will say that the easiest way for the average hobbyist to do selective breeding is what you already understand: "basically leave them in the tank to breed and then just cull the ones I don't like"

This allows you to enjoy your shrimp while continuing to strive for your goal.
Yes! And I understand that I can feed the culled ones to other fish, or just sell them, right?
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Haha I did not understand what you just said. I'm still very very new to this hobby, so please simplify it to newbie terms.
He's going into a deeper area of breeding involving F1 crosses with P1s. Great stuff, but more involved than what you are asking for methinks.


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Yes! And I understand that I can feed the culled ones to other fish, or just sell them, right?
Yepper. Many shrimpers own angels or other fish for this purpose, as well as enjoying a 2nd aspect of "animal" keeping.


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He's going into a deeper area of breeding involving F1 crosses with P1s. Great stuff, but more involved than what you are asking for methinks.
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Like it or not, inbreeding is required to set strains. Plus, what do you think happens when the babies grow up in the community shrimp tank? heh


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Like it or not, inbreeding is required to set strains. Plus, what do you think happens when the babies grow up in the community shrimp tank? heh
My girlfriend joked about how all shrimp in our tanks are the Brother, uncle, cousin, father, grandfather, godfathers of the tanks Hah.

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