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Question My PH so high for Red Fire Shrimp

For some reason, I tested my water the color like almost dark blue (API test) for PH I think it's more than 7.6 ppm in my Red Fire shrimp tank (3gallons). Do you think if I take out about 1.5gallons, add in RO water (without minerals) would low PH down?
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Why would you want to lower your pH?

That's fine for Neos.


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Really? I thought it can only go between 7.0 to 7.6, but when I tested water for PH, it's dark blue color which this go over more than 7.6 I believe.
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Many people keep cherries at 8+ ph with no probs.


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Neo's can take a lot.......I would argue even lower pH is actually worse lol....but I mean if you're in the 7's I would not even worry about it.


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I will try to keep under 8, would it be ok to fill in pure RO water? ... My tap water is soft but I wasnt sure why it been raised from my tank.
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My ph out of the tap tests at 8.2 but my cherries are just fine. I have around 10 berried shrimp right now. Don't worry about it.

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I will try to keep under 8, would it be ok to fill in pure RO water? ... My tap water is soft but I wasnt sure why it been raised from my tank.
Eh pure RO would be bad cause shrimp need dissolved solids in the water to survive and RO tests at 0. Perhaps a mix of tap and ro or u could use remineralizer with RO


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Thanks banana. I only took out about 1.5gal and put back in pure RO, hope it will be ok and now the PH down to 7.6 .
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Really, don't use pure RO water without remineralizing. Your parameters are likely going to pop right back where they were. Neos are absolutely fine in the pH you listed.

You swapped out 50% of your tank water, meaning your KH, GH, TDS and such were likely radically altered. Not good thing.

What do you have in the tank? What kind of substrate? Any rocks? Other material for your hardscape? And what are your other tank parameters? Temperature, KH, GH, TDS, nitrate?


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7.6 isn't bad for them and they'll have no problems. But in general pH < 7 is what most consider ideal for shrimps. If you want to lower the pH naturally then add indian almond leaves since this also contains other tannins that are beneficial for the shrimps.

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Thanks somewhatshocked, let see how's the tank do after the last night WC, next time I will make sure mix with Tap or remineralizing with RO only. By the way, what is the number for GH for red fire?
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Thanks somewhatshocked, let see how's the tank do after the last night WC, next time I will make sure mix with Tap or remineralizing with RO only. By the way, what is the number for GH for red fire?
I think 4-5 gh is the generally accepted number for most shrimp although the range could be a bit wider
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Cherries can take gh of around 4-14 or so.


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Uhm... I think you are worrying waaaay too much for nothing lol.

If nothing bad has happened to your RCS then don't change anything.

Cherries will tolerate a GIANT range of parameters. Let them live in what they are used to and what you can consistantly maintain.

The only thing that has caught my eye is that you said:
"My tap water is soft but I wasnt sure why it been raised from my tank."

If that does become a problem for the RCS then you may worry. But if there has been no negative signs of distress or anything. I say leave the environment in peace & zen.


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