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Tank setup help

Ok going to start purchasing stuff this week to setup my 20 gallon long shrimp breeding tank. I currently have CRS and Supreme Reds in a 5 gallon but want to transfer them to something a little bigger in hopes they will make sexy time Anyway I was just going to use an air powered sponge filter but decided since its going in the living room I want something quieter. I am considering an Eheim 2213 as I already have one on my Mini M tank and love it. Question is, is that enough filtration for a 20 long or is there a better canister filter? I am going to put the sponge over the intake of the filter btw. Another question is if I buy a sponge to go over the intake can I also put the sponge filter already in my 5 gallon in the tank and just not have it running ( basically so stuff can just grow on it or is that pointless)?
Next question is about substrate. I currently have ADA Aquasoil Amazonia in all my tanks but was wondering if there were others that weren't so expensive that would still buffer the PH? How about the Fluval Shrimp Stratum? Thanks everyone for the help

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I often times take an actively used sponge or bio-media bag and toss it into a newly cycling tank to help speed up the cycling process.

Shrimp seem to love to pick at 'old' or 'active' sponges or bio-media for food as well.

A sponge with no air going through it will still attract bio-film, bacteria, etc. but obviously not in the same quantity as if the sponge filter was being run with air.

Anything with a massive surface area and coarse type surface seems to attract both bacteria and the bio-film and micro-organisms that shrimp seem to love.
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My local fish store (not a chain) squeezed out a big sponge for me to have for free. I do shop them a lot
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Might have to take you up on that haha. I currently have a sponge filter in the 5 gallon tank but I'm afraid the biofilm from one sponge filter in a 20 gallon isn't going to be enough plus if I use ada Amazonia it will still leach ammonia correct?


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personaly i love my fluval shrimp stratum. took my ph from 7.5 tap down to 5 when it was brand new. after about 5 months of so the ph was 6 in the tank and has stayed there for the year. i got it last february and really need to replace it as its really breaking down now. so it has lasted about a year. it still buffers well even with out the use of ro water. but i guess it can be hit or miss. i will prob get more before i set up tanks when i move. ive read a that up aqua shrimp sand is pretty good but its more on the costly side and i have not personaly tried it.
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Ok sounds good. So what about my canister filter question


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that i dont know i only use sponges on my shrimp tanks....well i have on hagen elite mini inturnal filter running in a tank so i dont know anything about cannisters
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Someone else want to chime in on canister filters then?


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I know that the AquaTop CF300 is a perfect canister for a 20L tank. I have one and love it. There's a huge thread all about it and the feedback is overwhelmingly positive. Of course the Eheims are workhorses too...you can't go wrong with one, you just have to match the size to the tank.


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So given the fact they are the same price should I go with eheim 2213 which I know is built well and is dead quiet or the cf300?


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If they are the same price get the eheim. I have both of those canisters. The aquatop is fine, but the eheim is clearly a better build.

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Cool that's what I was thinking. Now would the eheim 2213 with a sponge or SS guard over the intake be enough filtration? Might even jump up to a 2215 since i have to spend over $100 at bigalsonline to get 10% off anyway. I have the air powered sponge filter as well but I honesty don't like all the noise it makes plus it splashes water everywhere when the oxygen bubbles come to the waters surface and pop


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To eliminate the water splash or noise, you can actually raise the tube above the surface of the water if desired. As long as the water is flowing from the top of the pipe out, it is still doing it's job.


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My thinking has been invert-ed!

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The CF300 IMO is plenty of filtration on a 20L so I'm sure the Eheim equivalent would be too. If you went the larger size, it would definitely be enough. What I did was took the sponge from a sponge filter and covered the canister intake. So I'm getting the best of both worlds with one unit. Lots of sponge area for shrimp to graze and protection for the baby shrimp from the canister.


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Re: Tank setup help

I personally use SS filter guard over the intake because sponges usually clog if you don't keep up with maintenance.

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