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Shrimp ID: Caridina Babaulti or something else?

I got some shrimp from aquabid. They were advertised as Caridina babaulti "green" but they are not green. I don't even know if they are babaulti's or some other species. They just look odd to me. These are currently in my cull tank with the betta. Amazing thing, finally, the betta is not interested in these shrimp. It would chase after anything with color but not these. These shrimp graze out in the open and the betta either can't see them or does not care.

Is this a wild type babaulti? I'm keeping them to provide company in my betta planted nano (3gal picotope) and will probably get some "real" Caridina babaulti green's from msjinkx later when the weather gets better to ship.

Right now, I'm just curious what I got here...





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I got some shrimp from aquabid. They were advertised as Caridina babaulti "green" but they are not green. I don't even know if they are babaulti's or some other species. They just look odd to me. These are currently in my cull tank with the betta. Amazing thing, finally, the betta is not interested in these shrimp. It would chase after anything with color but not these. These shrimp graze out in the open and the betta either can't see them or does not care.

Is this a wild type babaulti? I'm keeping them to provide company in my betta planted nano (3gal picotope) and will probably get some "real" Caridina babaulti green's from msjinkx later when the weather gets better to ship.

Right now, I'm just curious what I got here...





They look like Neos to me.

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Yes, I'm thinking the stripe down the back makes it look like a neo. But I think some babaulti's have a strip as well. is it the head shape too that makes it look like a neo? I'm not quite there where I can readily distinguish a caridina from a neo by head shape or body type
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I believe Lexinverts has stated in another thread (Exact same problem, maybe y'all should message each other) that the Babaulti's eyes are super small relative to it's body. So just based on that info alone, those look like neos to me as well. And it seems to be becoming a rampant problem that some AB sellers honestly are either clueless about the shrimp they have or they are trying to dupe people. Not sure but I had a bad transaction myself a couple of weeks ago and have read I believe 3 others having the issue of the shrimp they were sent were not what they were supposed to be, in just the last couple of weeks.


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OK. If they are neo's, any idea what kind? just dull wild types?

I don't like the feeling of being duped but since I paid very little for them, I can't complain too much. At least I got some shrimp that the betta does not want to kill. I'll post some pics later of the betta + shrimp truce that has taken place in my planted nano
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They look green from your photos. Are they brown and clear? Wild Neo colors.

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They are brown and clear. The green is from the HC as background
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I don't have the talent to identify shrimp based upon anatomy but the babaulti complex is notorious for its wild variation and its mislabeling by importers.

Some of them also have significant color changes based upon tank and feeding conditions, IIRC.

I don't know whether those shrimp are what you were promised or not but I would suggest some patience until someone can clearly identify them.
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wild colored neo's is what im going to call them
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Those aren't like any babaulti I've ever seen.

Babaulti have a fat looking body/head and small eyes that stick out.

And true, green babaulti can be grey, or yellow or red or brown as well as green, but the ones you have are not green babaulti .
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Well, I'm stuck with neo's. At least my betta Ruby (short for Rubbard: if you know what rubbard is, his color looks like it!) has some tankmates he does not pester to death. Here are some pics of him just completely ignoring the shrimp.

In the first pic, the shrimp is right above his head...

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In the 2nd set of the pics, the shrimp walked across the tank and he just couldn't care less...

Follow the shrimp. First it is out of his sight on the left



Next he sees the shrimp right in the line of vision...



Last pic, he just let the shrimpie walk by... no worries

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This makes it obvious why they have that coloration (rather than the bright coloration of our hobbyist strains) in the wild.

Getting eaten likely ruins one's day.
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