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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 08-14-2020, 01:48 PM Thread Starter
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I set up a small planted tank 2 weeks ago with a java fern and a betta. Added a mystery snail a week ago and today just noticed this baby snail crawling around. Is it a pest snail?
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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 08-14-2020, 01:56 PM
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Bladder snail and grouped as a "pest" snail. If you don't mind snails though, leave it be.
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I was just about to post the same question with a photo(below) that looks pretty much the same.

These snails somehow came with plants that I have obtained from several sources, the most likely being a local guy who was taking his tank down and selling off livestock. The algae and snails were thrown in for free. With Covid precautions I went with photos as I could not go inside his house. At first they were small white dots on my glass. Now several are this size and are starting to lay eggs on the underside of leaves.

So my question now is what constitutes a "pest". Someone replied to an earlier post of mine that "a weed is any plant that you do not want". Perhaps true but not very helpful.

My guess is that unlike my Nerite snails these may have bad habits or may overrun a tank if allowed to stay? I doubt that anyone would call them a pest otherwise.

So what is their story?

Any help is appreciated.

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I was just about to post the same question with a photo(below) that looks pretty much the same.

These snails somehow came with plants that I have obtained from several sources, the most likely being a local guy who was taking his tank down and selling off livestock. The algae and snails were thrown in for free. With Covid precautions I went with photos as I could not go inside his house. At first they were small white dots on my glass. Now several are this size and are starting to lay eggs on the underside of leaves.

So my question now is what constitutes a "pest". Someone replied to an earlier post of mine that "a weed is any plant that you do not want". Perhaps true but not very helpful.

My guess is that unlike my Nerite snails these may have bad habits or may overrun a tank if allowed to stay? I doubt that anyone would call them a pest otherwise.

So what is their story?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!

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These snails are considered a pest for several reasons. First and foremost, once you have a bunch in there, they are very difficult to get rid of for good. Second, they will outcompete other organisms for food. If you have a very clean tank and low amounts of algae, they will outnumber and outcompete the things you put in your tank on purpose, like Nerites, Amano Shrimp, Neoís, etc. Finally, they can built to such a number that they clog filters, overflows, tubing, etc. I had a mini-ramshorn problem in an old tank that was so bad they clogged up and burnt out my filter impeller motor. My flow had stopped and the filter was making horrible noises, so I opened it up and found tens of thousands of snails clogging the whole filter unit.

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post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old 08-18-2020, 07:58 PM
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I add pond, bladder, trumpet and ramshorns to every tank I set up. Rarely have overpopulation issues in tanks that are maintained properly and if you want to reduce, they easy to lower the number of. I believe that these snails are a net positive in the panted aquarium. If you are seeing hundreds of them, either something has died or far too much food has been fed over time. Nothing reproduces past its resources, and in the aquarium, we provide the resources.

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People do occasionally look for snails to feed their puffer fish, too... and "pest" snails are often a cheap or even free method of doing so.
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