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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-22-2019, 03:26 AM Thread Starter
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Rams horn, planaeria, and detritus worms

Can any of the invertebrates above make their way into filter media?

I have a problem with them in my ten gallon tank. I want to start cycling a new 30 gallon by seeding it with some filter media. I am worried I will accidentally transfer those guys into it my new tank

Has any one heard of that happening?
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I am constantly cleaning the snails out of my canister filter and wash them out thoroughly. I would say that unless you treat with copper sulfate you could very reasonable introduce those critters into the new tank.
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Simply put, yes.
Detritus worms aren't an issue though planaeria is. If you see with media, more than likely all the aforementioned critters will be present in the new set up.


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Are you sure it's planaria and not rhabdocoela flatworms?

As mentioned, you are likely to get them in the new tank as well. I've even heard of some of these guys showing up in tanks with new everything and RO/distilled water used. No plants, just soil and water, plus a new filter.
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I just did a little research on rhabdocoela. Until now I have not heard of them.

They look a lot closer to what’s in my tank. are they harmful?

Also, I might get some snail zap. I have assassin snails, I’d have to move them to my 2.5 gallon for a while, then use carbon to remove the copper. Oi.
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No, rhabdos are harmless. They remain small and without a pointed head. Planaria actually grow larger.



If you ever plan on keeping shrimp in the tank, don't treat it with copper. That's guaranteed to kill off any future shrimp.
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Can’t I use carbon for a couple of weeks to remove the copper?
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I've heard that the copper leaves trace amounts that can be high enough to kill inverts over time... particularly in the silicone. I've never tested it out myself.
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Damn,

The instructions said to do a partial water change, and vaccume the gravel. I did some additional searches online, and Carbon supposedly removes copper. But I’m finding this hobby is filled with conflicting information.
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Maybe look into other methods of removal?

All I know is that inverts, shrimp in particular, can be extra sensitive to things that go into a tank...
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Any suggestions?
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For removal I mean..
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You could heat up the water high enough to kill anything in the tank you don't want living and as long as you don't have any sensitive plants, they should be okay. I don't remember exact temp but want to say around 104° F? If plants not sensitive, salt dip? Some people swear by PP treatment, but in my experience it doesn't kill snails... Always the option of using bleach as well... but you'd want to at least save the filter from that....
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What is pp?

I feel bleaching everything would defet the purpose of using the cycled media to seed a new tank.

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Potassium permanganate

A bleach dip would only be 1 part bleach to 19 parts water... or there's alum dip. Alum out of the spice isle.
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