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Alternative to potasium permanganate

Title says it all. I ran out and was wondering if there are viable alternatives for pest removal in new plants. Anyone tried hydrogen peroxide?

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Title says it all. I ran out and was wondering if there are viable alternatives for pest removal in new plants. Anyone tried hydrogen peroxide?

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I've tried a 19:1 dilution of bleach. Just dip the plants in there for 30 seconds. It took care of my snail problems.
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Rolo, when people mention bleach, do they mean like regular Clorox bleach at laundry section ? Also, do you need to rinse them with Dechlor before placing them back in the tank?
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Title says it all. I ran out and was wondering if there are viable alternatives for pest removal in new plants. Anyone tried hydrogen peroxide?

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Head to walmart and in their fish aisle they have Jungle Clear Water. Its a strong solution of pp that you can use as a stock. Before I got a hold of lab-grade stuff, I would squirt the bottle into a 5 g bucket of water until it was a deep purple. I've heard that bleach can work well, but I wouldn't want to risk it since you have to be careful about timing and rinsing with dechlor water.

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Rolo, when people mention bleach, do they mean like regular Clorox bleach at laundry section ? Also, do you need to rinse them with Dechlor before placing them back in the tank?
I just used the most simple, plain bleach I could find. Nothing with added detergents, fragences, etc. I rinsed the plants off very well with tap water, and dechlored the tank, not really the plants themsleves. I did all this before I added fish so I don't know how it would affect them.
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I would suggest to soak them in a bucket with extra dechlor after the bleach to remove as much bleach as possible before it goes back in the tank. A tiny bit of bleach will kill, if not stress our your fish a lot.



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Why not soak the plants in a mixture of alum (aluminum sulfate) and water? Alum can be purchased at most grocery stores in the spice section.
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For snails, Alum is the best solution. 2 - 4 hours kills snails - overnight kills snails and eggs.
If you use bleach, rinse well under the tap, and then into a pail with a 2X or 3X dose of Tap Water Conditioner before introducing into the tank. BTW, stick your hands into the pail as well. They will probably have bleach on them as well.

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Maybe I'm just lucky but I've *never*, in years of keeping and growing plants, bleached or "dipped" plants in anything.

I just rinse them off really well in 25-26C tap water and visually check for snails or snail eggs.

I've never had anything nasty transferred into my tanks via plants. Like I said, maybe I'm just lucky. It just seems strange to dip a plant into a caustic brew of any type .

Also, I've always had clown loaches so any snails that did sneak by never had a chance!!
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The Jungle Product is a 3% solution for the record, a few ounces of lab grade PP is less than a bottle of the Jungle and will last you forever.


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I have used Aquatronic's "Lime It" and have always had good results.

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Aquatronics is out of business and no longer makes anything.
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I better get down to the LFS and pick up what they have left on the shelves!

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Someone mentioned using alum to help rid snails off plants. Can someone tell me how much to use of alum and water mix. Thanks
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http://www.aquabotanic.com/disinfect.htm That thread will give you pretty much what you need to know.
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