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difference in paludarium, riparium?

I've read and read on here but still can't come up with a working definition that everyone agrees on for these two terms. I know what a vivarium is b/c I have one but what qualifies paludarium and riparium. I'm interested in turning my planted tank into a riparium, is it just as easy as lowering the water level and adding some 'emmersed' forms to the tank.

2. what is difference between immersed and emmersed?


Thanks and sorry for any repetitions on these questions, I just can't seem to find what info I'm looking for.

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1. This topic has come up frequently before, and I've already given my .02 on the etymology of those words, so I'm not going to repeat myself here. Just do a quick search, you'll see. https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/se...ium+paludarium

2. Immersed and emersed are somewhat antonyms. Opposites. But we don't say "immersed" for plants, we say "submerged." Probably because of how it sounds too similar to "emersed" when spoken aloud. And also because immersed is more of a generic word that doesn't necessarily have to do with being submerged in liquid. You can immerse yourself in culture, or language, etc. But you can't be submerged in Spanish.... You can say submerged in Spanish though: sumergido!
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But you can't be submerged in Spanish.... You can say submerged in Spanish though: sumergido!
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Here's a good explanation too: https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ge...ifference.html





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Thanks! And yeah, check it out in the thread LauraLee linked, I don't feel like typing the whole thing out, I'm lazy

but in short.... a riparium doesn't have any real "land" so the only livestock you can really keep are fish....i guess maybe you could keep bugs too?....


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Just in the interest of completeness, the etymology of each word is as follows:

*-arium means "that which contains, or place of"

Vivarium - Root word viv, meaning life, or living, so this is a setup built to contain living things. Obviously, a very generic word.

Terrarium - Root word terra, meaning Earth, or land, so this is a setup built to contain land-dwelling plants and animals.

Aquarium - duhhhhhhhh....

Paludarium - Root word palud, meaning swamp, or marsh, so this is meant to recreate a swamp environment, which incidentally enough, contains land and water.

Riparium - Root word ripa, meaning riverbank (or, possibly, shoreline), so this is meant to recreate a riverside environment, which ALSO contains land and water, but the focus tends to be more on the water side of it all.


It should be noted that all of the above can technically be considered vivariums. It should also be noted that the correct pluralized form of that word is actually vivaria, meaning more than one aquarium should correctly be referred to as aquaria, but I gave up on that one. No one seems to understand you when you correctly pluralize these words.

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perfect, my questions are answered! thanks to all

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Yeah, plus more stuff than you ever even dreamed of asking, right?





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simple answer:

Vivarium is any kind of ecosystem withen a tank

Terrariums are purely land

Paludariums are roughly half land, half water, with a solid soil portion for the land.

Ripariums, as promoted by hydrophote is plants grown on floating foam rafts in half full tanks. Supposedly traditionally they were paludariums with waterfalls/water features of some kind.

Aquariums are fully water.

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yep, tons of info! lol I have a vivarium now that I have a 2 inch water table with a grid over it and then soil/peat/coconut base, growing bromeliads and etc in there and there used to be dart frogs in there. I'm going to convert it to a riparium/paludarium but do it simply. I think I'm just going to make a couple land masses with rocks and wood rising out of the water, and then also float some plants. The back is coconut with a side of the aquarium with slate mortared on. I'll post some pics of current viv setup and maybe you all can help me with ideas to convert it.

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after taking everything out except the sideground and background and redoing it, here is what I have now. Let me know what you think.


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