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Angels and plants

I have a established 125 with 2 angels male and female and 6 clown loaches and more small schooling fish.
When I got rid of my big cichlids and started over I knew one day I was going to add low light plants.
So about a week ago I started with 3 amazon swords fairly good size ones.
Problem is the angel's are eating the crap out of them!
The 2 angels have been in the tank for about a year .
So maybe this is new behavior and they will stop???
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Hmm, interesting behaviour. I had them with E. amazonicus with no problems. They even used it as a spawning place. Maybe the leaves are damaged from the transportation/adaptation.

If the plants are well rooted they should regenerate even if their leaves are mostly gone. Try giving them some time to get used to each other... If the angelfish keep eating the Echinodorus, maybe try growing Anubias and Cryptocoryne in the aquarium.

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i have baby angels now... they are eating cucumbers and zucchini just like plecos and platies... so i think you can offer them something else instead of your plants...maybe it will work ))
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Certain they are eating and not just plucking at algae to clear for spawning? I find they use broad plant leaves at times.
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I use to raise baby angels. I would put 6 tiny ones in my planted aquarium. They would absolutely devour my plants. They would have huge belles 24 hours a day. Once I had a bad algae outbreak in my planted tank. I put baby angels in the tank and they ate every leaf, algae and all, off my stem plants. New leaves grew back algae free. I also put two breeders in my planted tank once. They also ate the plants but not near as much as the babies did. I think young angels must eat plants. I never put angels in my planted tanks anymore. That said I have seen many successful planted tanks with Angels. Not mine.
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I have 7 medium-large angels in my planted 75g and they never bother any plants.
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Only time I've ever seen angels bother plants was when spawning. They gave that poor leaf a thorough round of dermabrasion.

I recently removed the surviving member of the pair from the "love nest" and left their last spawn in the tank. I have noticed them picking at the algae.

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Never had a problem, always kept angels in a low light planted with swords, they would lay eggs on the sward leaves and would peck the leaves.
Try giving them algae wafers, they like veggies also.
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I have 4 adults in my 75 with a few guppies and some shrimp and plecos and not a problem at all (no swords tho)

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A lightbulb went off after reading this. I wonder if it's entirely dependent on the type of tank they spent their formative weeks in. The fry left behind spend a lot of time picking at the algae encrusted wood. They eat when I feed them too. BUT...the previous batch from this pair, also raised in this tank, I had a lot of issues with when I moved them to traditional bare bottom tanks. It occurred to me that they were used to grazing, and probably a lot more green in their diet, then I switched them over to a bare tank and a schedule with more protein than they were used to.

I couldn't figure it out because I'd "stolen" a group of surviving wrigglers from another pair who always chose the filter intake. Those grew up in various bare bottom containers so ate only when I feed them rather than grazing. They also didn't have a rash of inexplicable losses.

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Mature adults will eat smaller-leaved stems. The big fellas in the 180G nibble away at the lower leaves of a patch of rotala inidica. Amazon leaves are usually their first choice of depositing sites so you're most likely in for a display of spawning behavior. They'll commandeer a good portion of the tank real soon.

If the plant was weakened or has a deficiency of any sort, they will also nibble away at the plant's edges, but that's very different from the thorough scrubbing they give the center of a leaf before putting down eggs.

They also have a sweet tooth for floaters. Duckweed doesn't stand a chance.

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Yes sir you just described it perfect. Mine are dive bombing the leaves.
But they still spawn on the filter intake tube.
I am slowly adding more plants. I ordered some water sprite bunches for the back ground. Maybe that will take some of the heat off the amazons.
Algae wafers sounds like a good idea also.
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I've been raising angels on and off for 15 years. Never an issue.

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