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Starting my 55 gallon tonight.

Okay... I think I need a little hand holding and last minute tips.

Tonight I will "start" my 55 gallon. (I view "starting" as putting some form of life in the tank, i.e. planting some of the plants)

I'm going to go with dry start. I have 3 x 9liter bags of amazonia in the tank... sloped, with some petrified wood making a bit of an iwagumi scape. I will be planting Eleocharis acicularis 'Mini' and spraying it and the surrounding soil with water to dampen it.

Not going to go crazy with the light at first.

Questions:
I have a fourth bag of amazonia. Should I add it now? Is there any "problem" association with having more substrate than technically needed? I know it leeches amonia like crazy, which is part of why I'm doing a dry start to begin with. I also don't mind doing lots of water changes and waiting for full cycling before adding fish. If it will be beneficial to me in the long run to have a nice thick layer, I'll add it now. If it would be harmful to have that much of it, I will not add it and see if I can return it.

What should my dampening routine be? Just keep it moist, mist-spraying a couple of times per day?

Light options, there are two for the moment.
1. My boyfiend's old 48" long light... for his tank it provided just enough light for an anibus plant to grow pretty well. Sorry I don't have specific specs.
2. BUILDMYLED Freshwater Planted LED for a few hours each day?

Thanks for all your help!

~Lindsay
Milwaukee, WI
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With the DSM you can crank up the light intensity and photoperiod. I would add quite a bit of water to completely saturate the substrate and keep the humidity up by misting it as often as you want while wrapping the top with plastic wrap.

Also, I'd add all the substrate you want now because a carpet isn't the most user friendly for adjusting substrate.

I realize my suggestion is literally the exact opposite of your 'not going crazy with the light at first' hahaha


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Okay... I think I need a little hand holding and last minute tips.

Tonight I will "start" my 55 gallon. (I view "starting" as putting some form of life in the tank, i.e. planting some of the plants)

I'm going to go with dry start. I have 3 x 9liter bags of amazonia in the tank... sloped, with some petrified wood making a bit of an iwagumi scape. I will be planting Eleocharis acicularis 'Mini' and spraying it and the surrounding soil with water to dampen it.

Not going to go crazy with the light at first.

Questions:
I have a fourth bag of amazonia. Should I add it now? Is there any "problem" association with having more substrate than technically needed? I know it leeches amonia like crazy, which is part of why I'm doing a dry start to begin with. I also don't mind doing lots of water changes and waiting for full cycling before adding fish. If it will be beneficial to me in the long run to have a nice thick layer, I'll add it now. If it would be harmful to have that much of it, I will not add it and see if I can return it.

What should my dampening routine be? Just keep it moist, mist-spraying a couple of times per day?

Light options, there are two for the moment.
1. My boyfiend's old 48" long light... for his tank it provided just enough light for an anibus plant to grow pretty well. Sorry I don't have specific specs.
2. BUILDMYLED Freshwater Planted LED for a few hours each day?

Thanks for all your help!
Without lots of water and the higher amount of CO2 concentration in there air like freemanana said the more light the better in the beginning. You won't get algae theres enough co2 to prevent the plants from being deprived. I would think moisten 3 times a day at the least. Where I am its really dry so here I would do it alot more if I was using this method. Good luck it will be loads of fun!
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Make sure you add enough water to the soil. Keep the water line just under or at the soil line. In regards to lighting I would keep the light on 10-12 hours a day. You won't have to worry about algae because of the amount of water in the tank. Some people add co2 and some just open the top a couple times a day for air/co2 exchange. The more successful dry starts I have seen have been with an added co2 line, especially with the plant you chose. In regards to the spraying, you want to keep the humidity as high as you can, 60%-100%. I would use plastic wrap on top of the tank to seal it and spray as needed. You should see water droplets on everything all the time and fogged glass. Remember the dry start methods is to induce strong root growth so when it melts, which it will when you add all the water, it will bounce back fast because the roots are so well established. Have fun with it!!!
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Those established roots also hold slopes better when you do flood the tank.


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Make sure you add enough water to the soil. Keep the water line just under or at the soil line. In regards to lighting I would keep the light on 10-12 hours a day. You won't have to worry about algae because of the amount of water in the tank. Some people add co2 and some just open the top a couple times a day for air/co2 exchange. The more successful dry starts I have seen have been with an added co2 line, especially with the plant you chose.
Thank you!!! So I ordered (and received today) a CO2 setup from GLA. My long term plan was to put this into the filter outtake line but with a dry start, should I just run a hose into the tank and then saran wrap the top?

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Those established roots also hold slopes better when you do flood the tank.
Thanks! I am planning on adding my own "substrate" supports ala The Green Machine aquascaping videos using a flexible plastic cutting board.

However, I'll take all the help I can get!

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Thank you!!! So I ordered (and received today) a CO2 setup from GLA. My long term plan was to put this into the filter outtake line but with a dry start, should I just run a hose into the tank and then saran wrap the top?
You shouldn't need CO2 to start. There is enough in the air. And when the lights are off the plants need O2.

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