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Water changes

Okay so I have a little bit of an issue with water changes. Pretty much the only easy way to easily flow new water into my tank is with my outside hose and the water is always freezing.

I'm sure I could do the bucket brigade thing and put bucket after bucket in my tank of warmer, more accurate water, but thats such a pain.

Does anybody have any solutions to this? And also, how often do you guys do them? I've heard everything from every week to every other week to once a month. Frankly every week seems a bit much to me, especially if your tank is lightly stocked/heavily filtered like mine is. But others might argue with that.
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55gal or similar food grade barrel, i picked mine up for 20.00 on kijiji.

a heater, i had a eheim 300w jager sitting around, so i am using that. and a pump to move the water around in the barrel. fill it a day or two before and heat it to the required temp and then fill. now you have fully degased aged water with the exact temp you want. simply pump it from there to ur tank.

i do a wc weekly, 60% and my plants and fish love love love a fresh serving of water
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Now the more I'm looking into it, it would seem that doing a weekly water change would probably greatly benefit the tank. I don't think I will be removing 60% of it, but I guess it will still help.

I'm having constant issues with dying fish and I can't find the culprit. I'm assuming this is what it is because I don't do frequent water changes/filter cleanings. I need to step that up.
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Also this is a good time to do the dechlor if needed. Saves using as much to treat for the whole tank volume. Add a remote control between the pump and receptacle so that you can stand at the tank and turn the flow on/off?
If appearance of a barrel is not what you want, maybe add a sheet of nice fabric over the top? Mine wound up as a place to put the ten gallon QT tank.
My timing varies from daily to two weeks. Each tank is different as you mention, so adjust as you see it working.
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If there is a bathroom faucet nearby you can simply unscrew the aerator from the faucet spigot and screw in the adaptor for a Python. Then you just adjust your water temp and fill the tank from inside. It will also screw on to most kitchen faucets the same way. The adaptors come with the Python. You should dose the tank with enough Prime for the whole tank when you change water this way rather than adding just enough for the amount of water changed.

Water changes are extremely important in a planted tank. I start to develop BBA if I skip a couple water changes. Algae do not like regular water changes. I change 50% a week and if I skip a week the BBA starts to come back.
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The more expensive method is to plumb a hot water line into your hose... BUT you get the added benefit of being able to have warm sprinkler water for kids to run through... or wash your car with, or whatever... I personally leave it off unless I have a need for it, so as not to waste the hot water


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I say get a python. Those things are great.


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I have a python and do 50% every week on 9 tanks....I bought it when I turned 50. I should have bought it when I turned 30. The bucket brigade is lame.

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Water Changes

Hello Black...

I used to use the large, heavy trash containers. I'd get them from the local hardware store. Used them to store the clean, treated water and used another for holding the old water I removed during the water change. A tank heater can be used to keep the new water within a few degrees of what's already in the tank.

Water changes keep pollutants out of the tank. I remove more than most, about 60 percent weekly. I change so much water, I can safely use a much smaller filter. The filter is just moving clean water. Don't have to ever test the water, I know the chemistry is balanced, little or no dissolved wastes.

It's all about the water.

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I actually came up with a method of just filling up a huge plastic tub (like the ones you can buy to store stuff that have lids on them) with water, placing my heater in there for awhile, and then when it's ready removing the water from my tank and replacing it with the already heated water. I also added a good amount of prime to it. But I'm not really sure how to detect how much.

I would gladly do a Python or something of this manner, but unfortunately my kitchen sink/bathroom faucets are all weird connections that the Python or pretty much anything else will not fit onto. I tried using the Aqueon water changer and it wouldn't connect to it.

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Aside from buying an entire Python you can go to the Lowes/Home Depot ect and buy a fitting that has aerator threads on one side and garden hose threads on the other side. I had to buy one for my Python, though I don't use the faucet to help drain my tank. You can then mix the tap with heated water and bring the incoming tank water to a temp closer to the temp of the tank it's going into. I shoot for -1 degree from tank temp, but not hotter than the tank at all.

The cold replacement water can defiantly be the cause of your "mysterious" fish deaths.

I was doing WCs every week, but have found that my tank does better with every other week WCs, even with CO2 injection and full EI dosing.


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Aside from buying an entire Python you can go to the Lowes/Home Depot ect and buy a fitting that has aerator threads on one side and garden hose threads on the other side.
Yeah that's a little bit much for me.


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The cold replacement water can defiantly be the cause of your "mysterious" fish deaths.
I'm not sure what it is, because I just tested my water today and there is 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrates and 0 Nitrites. So maybe I just need to keep up with water changes more frequently and do it properly and monitor the temperature.
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Yeah that's a little bit much for me.
What is buying, a Python, or the adapter to hook a garden hose to your sink? An adapter will run you like $2.

Bump: Heck here's one for .25

http://www.amazon.com/Dual-Thread-Fa.../dp/B000DZKX5Y
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I had buy an adaptor for my sink also. They are really cheap and your problems would be solved once you figured out exactly what you need.


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I personally like the trash barrel in the garage with a heater and circulatory pump. Then a small power head to pump it through a hose into the tank. That is, if you don't have a way to fill with the python.


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