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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-13-2015, 01:10 AM Thread Starter
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30gal project advice welcome!

So I got a 30gal tank second hand, I set it up, and bought some plants that I had picked out before I started, I have a Finnex plant+24/7 on order. I am going to order stuff for EI, and some excel. This is the tank, I just put the plants spread out to grow some, as it just has 1 T8 plant bulb until the LED arrives!
Subtrate is just crushed coral type sand I think, thats what it looks like to me, I am wondering what I should use, cat litter under it, or just spread out some Osmocote and add osmo root tabs under root feeders? Thoughts? and any advice Welcome!! Thanks for looking

Plants I put in are:
Ludwiga Rubin
Bacopa Carolina,
Stargrass
dwarf lily
Green Hygro
Green and brown crypt
Staurogyne repens
floating water cabbage

I would still like to get some Downoi and sunset Hygro
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Likely you should take some of the sub to a local pet shop and find out if it's reef sand/crushed coral. These don't belong in a freshwater tank. Changes the PH.

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Did you add any cycling media into the tank else you might have to do water changes every alternate day for 2 weeks.


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Ill keep an eye on the ph and see, next time im at the pet shop Ill look and see if thats what it is. it was a used tank, was all set up and cycled so no worries there, If I run into trouble I can use some media from my other tank
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You're definitely going to need some root tabs since the substrate is sand only. You may want to consider moving the bacopa carolinia over to the left side so it's not competing with the L. Ruben. They both will grow to the water level really easily in the right conditions.


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I spread some out a bit more, and moved a couple stems to the left, just kind of waiting game now until the finnex arrives
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Ill keep an eye on the ph and see, next time im at the pet shop Ill look and see if thats what it is. it was a used tank, was all set up and cycled so no worries there, If I run into trouble I can use some media from my other tank
It is not really the pH you need to watch. Test for ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates. GH and KH are also important. In a properly cycled tank, ammonia and nitrites should be zero. Nitrates should be less than 40 ppm. If you have >0 ammonia levels use some Tetra SafeStart to introduce the right bacteria. It will consume ammonia, convert to nitrites, and then convert nitrites to nitrates. Plants will consume nitrates, if you have enough plant mass. Yours will have to grow out some.

I wouldn't start EI until you have sorted out the above and are getting zero nitrates.

Your GH and KH should be about equal. Harlequin Rasboras like a KH somewhere between 6-10.
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IM not new to keeping fish and cycling tanks etc, its an established tank its fine, the fish will be going in my big tank, they came with the tank so there in there for now,

I have a bag of Moon sand, that I can use as a cap, for dirt, or cat litter, I had cat litter in a 120gal capped with silica,my first time with live plants, I had amazon sword, vals, red lily, and sag, I can tell you that I never added any ferts or excel to that tank, 4 t8 plant lights and the plants grew like crazy!! I was cutting at least 10inches off the vals a week and they spread like crazy, my sword went from one to 5 plants in a matter of months.
Right now I have a 60gal with albino dantum angels, cardinals, cories, but I wanted to get back into plants, so It thought a 30 would be a good start, easy to work with, and in!

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I think you'll be fine. I'd stick some root tabs in there if you want. Most plants do fine with column dosing. If it is low tech, I wouldn't worry about root tabs too much. I put root tabs in my tank when I started it up, but haven't replaced them since and it has been 6 months or so. I've had more growth in the last month than the first 5. Just play it by ear. If your plants look to be struggling, start worrying.


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I decided im going to go with dirt capped with black sand, I am seeing growth on everything and its only been a few days!, very encouraging, Im going to wait a couple weeks to change to dirt, as I have a couple more plants and ferts and the light should be here by then! I will move all fish to my other tank, so I wont have to worry to much about killing them if the ammonia spikes from the dirt.
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So I have these plants, any thoughts on a nice scape to to with them? I sort of have an idea, just thought I would ask! Thanks
Bacopa Carolina,
Stargrass
dwarf lily
Green Hygro Siamensis
sunset Hygro
baby tears
ludwiga rubin
Green and brown crypt
Staurogyne repens
Lobelia cardinalis
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So heres what I have so far, tell me what you think!
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Update, all is going well so far! added some wood and fish! I like it!
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