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Got my Tank started. Would like some more input!

I have a 30 gallon tank and I really want a vibrant plant tank. What my goal to do is have a tank with a handful of different types of plants and I would like to put a couple rainbowfish in it as well.
I have already bought a good amount of plants without really doing any research and now I feel like an irresponsible pet owner. Good thing the fish havent came in yet...
The plants that I have right now are Dwarf Rotala, Vallis, Cyperus Helferi, Moneywort, Pond Lily Bulbs, Water Wisteria, Peacock Fern, White Ribbon (just realized these are semi aqautic... gosh I suck). I have a couple others that i forgot to get the names for. I will get them on monday when they reopen. (I think one is a type of cryptocoryne, it has red leaves and comes from a bulb.) Oh I also have some Duckweed in there!

I have an air pump suitable for 80gallons (top fin air-4000) and a 3 stage canister filter from Aquatop (suitable for tanks up to 75gallons). My lighting which I am very not happy with is a National Geographic Customizable LED Lighting Track (2 channels, channel 2 has a dimmer on it) and I have three of the pods set for plant growth, two lunar blue pods, and 4 cool white pods. Now the reason I am quite sad with this fixture is because I have found people talking about not using them for growing plants, just for fish.

I remember now that I have harder than normal water.

I also bought co2 booster from aqueon and some plant food from them as well. I plan to buy a co2 diffuser eventually.

The tank has been set up for about 24 hours now (with plants included) didnt have the extra filter at the time of filling the tank up and adding the decor and accessories. I have noticed that a couple of the plants are already turning translucent or darker.

Oh I keep my thermometer at 79 degrees.

Picture of my tank is attached. Thanks for any input and I will be very grateful for all the help you can provide!

Also my Vallis is starting to show heavy signs of iron deficiency after just one day.
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The plants with white edges are not aquatic plants. They do not grow submerged. Just die slowly. Dracaena sanderiana.
I think you need a lot more plants, and a better layout of the hardscape materials.
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Yes i do know that the white ribbons and the water wisteria are semi aquatic. The ribbons should grow for live fro a couple months then rot. They will be moved. I will get more plants once i know i got my situation under control. Just beginning here. Thank you for the input! I have tons of drift wood too. Cant wait

Bump: Also i have read up that vallis dont need Co2 to live, but if i added co2 for the other plants im sure that it wouldnt cause any harm to the vallis correct?


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As far as I know, Water Wisteria (Hygrophila Difformis) can be grown emersed, but can also remain entirely submersed indefinitely.
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CO2 is not a problem for Vallisneria. The liquid form of carbon supplement is not so good for them. The Seachem Excel (carbon supplement) has 2 dosing rates. My Vals are doing just fine at the lower rate.

Vallisneria, and roughly half the plants we use in aquariums can get their carbon from carbonates in the water, no need for CO2. This is metabolically expensive for the plants to do, though, so if there is any CO2 they will use that in preference to using carbonates as a carbon source.
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CO2 is not a problem for Vallisneria. The liquid form of carbon supplement is not so good for them. The Seachem Excel (carbon supplement) has 2 dosing rates. My Vals are doing just fine at the lower rate.
Sooo my Co2 booster is what is prolly doing the damage to my Vallis? Man i need to do a lot more research. Feel like i have done a lot of work today on my first ever try. Always more to learn!


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Remember learning comes mostly from experience. There is a lot of valuable info here, but you will see what works over time. I used to be worried about my lighting and substrate because it wasn't what most people were using, but it is working just great for me. I am housing low tech plants like water wisteria, java fern, java moss, pennywort. Co2 is a must for some plants, but many do fine without it. Though vallis can be tricky. I am struggling with it. I find people say it either all melts and that is the end, or it grows like crazy.
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Thank you thank you! I have been messing with the tank and doing a bunch of research. Tank has only been up for like 1 full day now. And not much i can really tweak yet until i let it sit for a week and see if things are growing and what not correct? I know its not gonna just happen over night!
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Letting it go for a week at the minimum. It took over a month for my tank to settle in and start showing growth. After about 3 months, the growth took off. I wasn't using CO2 or liquid carbon though, so your mileage may vary. I usually give most changes 2-4 weeks before I tweak them again because your tank is going to slowly adapt to the change. This doesn't apply to things such as over feeding, fish gasping from CO2, etc that are 'hot' fixes.


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Letting it go for a week at the minimum. It took over a month for my tank to settle in and start showing growth. After about 3 months, the growth took off. I wasn't using CO2 or liquid carbon though, so your mileage may vary. I usually give most changes 2-4 weeks before I tweak them again because your tank is going to slowly adapt to the change. This doesn't apply to things such as over feeding, fish gasping from CO2, etc that are 'hot' fixes.
Thank you so much I will let it go for about a week or two and come back with some updates! For now i shall just observe. I love watching the plants swaaaaaaaay!

I cannot thank you all enough thank you thank you!!


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