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Is it possible to go without cleaning your tank?

I have a ton of hornwort in my piranha tank, and I honestly haven't done a water change in at least a month. Today I checked the Ammonia and Nitrate though, and they were almost at zero. If your parameters are fine, is there really any reason to clean the tank?
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I know people who do water changes every 6 months. Don't fix what is not broken?
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I am responding to the title of your thread.

YES

WHEN THE TIME COMES YOU SHALL GO WITHOUT CLEANING YOUR TANK


Cleaning your tank = removing accumulation of residue in your filter + poop over the substrate + algae on the walls + water-stains on the glass etc. You want to live with them - go ahead.

The water in your tank is evaporating.

If you are topping up your tank then the water is accumulating solutes.

If you want that to continue - go ahead.


YOU SHALL GO WITH A DIRTY TANK
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But bacteria decompose the waste and turn it to nitrates and phosphates, which are just taken up by the plants, right?
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Microorganisms often work slower than the debris accumulates. Better to vacuum the tank once in a while, at least get into the slow flow areas where debris accumulates. And clean the filter. The filter is providing good circulation to keep oxygen, CO2 and plant nutrients circulated throughout the tank. Also, a lot of decomposer microorganisms live in the filter, and they need oxygen. Good flow = more oxygen though the filter = better job at decomposing whatever materials they can.

New water coming into the tank can bring in the minerals plants and fish need- calcium, magnesium.
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Is it ok to live in a room all your life and never open up a window or go outside?

Yeah you could live like that but you will most likely not be healthy or happy.

If you care about your fish you will do water changes. You could get away with once a month but you really must do them.

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Even in nature water is not static. Even if it's a natural pond, the water will evaporate, then rain will refill it. So even nature provides water changes to its "tanks" and they are much bigger then what you have at home.

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Even in nature water is not static. Even if it's a natural pond, the water will evaporate, then rain will refill it. So even nature provides water changes to its "tanks" and they are much bigger then what you have at home.
That was the natural topping up, Mark

- the water change is the rain topping up the water lost through seepage flow into the bottom and sides.

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That was the natural topping up, Mark

- the water change is the rain topping up the water lost through seepage flow into the bottom and sides.
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Of course you can go without cleaning, but would you like crapping in your room and,never being able,to get fresh air or clean it up?
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Evaporation is usually H2O and nothing with it. So pure water. All other tgings that went into tge tank when you filled up is still in there.
One can argue that plants will use most of it. But look at it this way. New water adds 100 elements. Plants use 99 of them. But that one element that nobody uses will keep accumulating until it reaches toxic levels.
If you can condense all the evaporated water back into the tank, you can go longer without water changes but plants will run out of some elements that are not added with the food or fert.
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Tank Cleaning

Hello crypt...

Just because the forms of nitrogen are low, doesn't mean the water is clean by any means. In nature, water is constantly being removed and replaced, so the mineral content is high and the dissolved waste is low. The same should be done with a tank. The longer water stays in the tank, the more it changes and becomes sterile, unable to support whatever lives in it.

It would be best for you to work up to the point you're changing at least half the water weekly. This will benefit whatever lives in it.

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