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Aqueon Stand Fitting Help

Hi, I just bought a Aqueon stand (18x36) with a matching Aqueon 50g tank. My question is whether or not the tank is supposed to fit into the stand (yellow line) or if it's supposed to sit on top of it (blue line)?

See the pic below, the tank is sitting on the top edges and doesn't fit into the stand. Which would make sense since the middle beam would provide support?

According to their site, the stand fits their 50g tank but I'm just worried that there's no foundation for the middle of the tank since it's sitting on the edge of the stand.

Stand Size Fits Tank Size
20” 10,20X
24” 15,20H,30X
30” 20L,29,37
36” 30,38,45
48” 33L,40L,55
18 X 36 30BR,40BR,50,65
18 X 48 75E, 90,110X
18 x 72 125,150
24 x 48 120

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It's supposed to fall into that space and sit on yellow ledger
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You have just run solid up against one of the most debated issues we see on the forum. Does the whole tank need support?
Aqueon thinks not and builds their stands so that they fit on the upper sides of the board.

Part of their thinking may be due to the way many tanks are built. If you look at the bottom of the tank, you may find the bottom glass is not really down at the same level of the outer edges. So no matter what stand is used, the center of the bottom glass is going to be floating. No problem for most tanks.
I don't like the Aqueon stand design and find they are prone to failure after some use but it is not due to the way they leave the glass up off the bottom. My complaint with them is that as tanks are moved around to adjust them just right, it puts a lot of strain on the corner joints of the stand. There is not much holding that corner together. If they had only gone a small step further and added a block of wood in each corner and glued it in place, the thing would last much longer.
Since I have wood and a saw handy I add the block on any used stand of this design.
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Thanks guys. I might reinforce the stand with triangle buttresses. I'm also thinking of elevating the middle bar so it provide support.

plantedrich what do you mean block of wood? Can you expound? I might want to do that. Thanks .
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Yeah when I went to purchase the stand for the 55, I really did not like the way it was designed. It looked like it had no support for the tank and large sections of the stand stood upwards more than the rest of it. I'd rather the entire bottom of the tank be supported evenly. Makes me feel much more secure.

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Part of their thinking may be due to the way many tanks are built. If you look at the bottom of the tank, you may find the bottom glass is not really down at the same level of the outer edges. So no matter what stand is used, the center of the bottom glass is going to be floating. No problem for most tanks.
I wish you had been around a year back when I suggested that since the
tanks are built different, that rimless tanks need support under the whole
bottom of the tank. I have since just decided to wait till I see one only supported on the four corners like a conventional tank before I believe
that would be sufficient.
But at least a couple of the responses specifically stated that regular
tanks are built in the same way that rimless are and then it just gets a rim placed on it. They were at a loss to understand why I thought that would be a problem.
But a regular tank is NOT built like a rimless tank. It is plain to see that you understand this so I wish you had been there at that time.
Because I didn't know how to explain the difference to them.

But those Aqueon stands do have a lifetime warranty when the tank and stand are bought together.

The shortest distance between any two points is a straight line...in the opposite direction...
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Yep outside. I have this stand setup with the 40 b.
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I wish you had been around a year back when I suggested that since the
tanks are built different, that rimless tanks need support under the whole
bottom of the tank. I have since just decided to wait till I see one only supported on the four corners like a conventional tank before I believe
that would be sufficient.
But at least a couple of the responses specifically stated that regular
tanks are built in the same way that rimless are and then it just gets a rim placed on it. They were at a loss to understand why I thought that would be a problem.
But a regular tank is NOT built like a rimless tank. It is plain to see that you understand this so I wish you had been there at that time.
Because I didn't know how to explain the difference to them.

But those Aqueon stands do have a lifetime warranty when the tank and stand are bought together.
Where did you find that it's a lifetime warranty for tank+stand? I checked their site but they list warranty separately for each and it's not lifetime. Thanks.
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It might be a "Petsmart" thing as I was told that by a store employee when in their store.

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Thanks guys. I might reinforce the stand with triangle buttresses. I'm also thinking of elevating the middle bar so it provide support.

plantedrich what do you mean block of wood? Can you expound? I might want to do that. Thanks .
Triangle buttress or block of wood? We both mean the same except I have square or rectangle in mind as easy to cut where triangle requires a 45 cut!

I just cut a stub off a 2X2 or 2X4 and glue it in the corners, using clamps to hold it while the glue dries. If you scrape the paint off the stand where the glue can actually soak into the wood, a glue like Elmer's will make the joint almost as strong as the wood itself. If one wanted to make it feel stronger, a length of 2X run the full length of the ends and glued solid does even more. Not sure it is really stronger but feels beefy?
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An update on my stand, I've made several reinforcements and it now feels more secure. I've made the following modifications:

1. Added another middle bar on top of the existing
2. Added back and front vertical bars to support #1
3. Added a small block elevated so it makes contact with the tanks middle sides. Hopefully this will provide additional support for the middle of the tank.
4. Added bars to the base of the left and right interior sides
5. Added bars on all sides on the bottom of the tank.

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Possible overkill but I often sleep better when I know I've locked both door lock and deadbolt. When easy and the equipment is on hand is a much better time to do the work than after 6 -8 months and it starts to show it is needed.
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