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Could I collect water from Lake Superior??

I used to live in Florida and on occasion would collect 5g (for my 180g saltwater tank) from the incoming tide in the Atlantic Ocean... Not to fill the tank, but maybe to get some added benefits.

Could I collect water from Lake Superior (Great Lakes in Michigan)?? Would I get any benefit from it?? I live way way up in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan where not too many people venture into the water. I know Lake Superior is cold, but I would plan to heat the water up before using it.

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Heck, Houghton is practically in the middle of Lake Superior!

I'm sure the water is clean enough for your tanks but you still need to get an idea of the other parameters like Alkalinity, Hardness, etc. As a precaution, you may consider boiling it to keep any disease organisms from entering your tank. Is your water supply from the lake? if it is, why not use that?
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there's no more benefit than you would get from the tap.


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Water source is from who knows where.... It is city water so I will be treating it anyways... I don't have my RO/Di anymore, sold it in the move here.... Tap water it is..

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Water source is from who knows where.... It is city water so I will be treating it anyways... I don't have my RO/Di anymore, sold it in the move here.... Tap water it is..
Tap is likely is extremely high grade.

No reason to take crap from elsewhere when you are the cleanest of all the lakes.

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Tap is likely is extremely high grade.
Would my TDS Meter benefit me in this case??

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you can google your local waterworks.. it'll tell you where they get the water from and the water parameters. It's a good bet they get their water from the lake.


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That water up there is extremely clean, still, I suppose it might be possible to pick up diseases, especially if there are any wild fish in the vicinity.

Of course you would want to mindful of other parameters in addition to water such as pH and hardness and adjust if necessary.
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why would you do this
I also live on the side of the GREAT lake but heck the water is great right out of the tap.
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I have had swimmers itch from the lake so it can harbour some nasty crap

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If you drink the water from a natural body of water, no matter which one it is, you stand a very big risk of picking up a vicious parasite that can kill you if the resultant diarrhea isn't treated. If you drink the water from your kitchen sink faucet, no matter where in the USA you live, you stand almost no risk of any harm being done as a result. Which is likely to be the better water for an aquarium, a very unnatural body of water?

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Is VHS (viral hemorrhagic septicemia) present in Lake Superior yet? If so that's a big reason to not use the lake water - VHS is a nasty fish disease! You aren't supposed to transport water/weeds/live fish away from lakes where the disease is detected to help minimize its spread.

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MR jame ..you must lived right next to the lake, a beach house? if not why bother to do that , tap water is our best friend when it come to fresh , but i'll do RO for salt though. even salt i wont even take any water from the ocean and put in my tank , same as rock from the ocean , dont know how many hitchhikers can come with it .!!


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When I lived in Palm Coast, Florida, I collected water from the Ponce Inlet. This water I collected was not to fill the tank, rather to collect any traces of plankton, which were good for my corals. I don't think I saw a noticeable difference. Collecting NSW (Natural Sea Water) also helped to stabilize my water parameters. I only collected it a few times as I (formerly a Michigan resident) had watched Jaws one too many times and was a bit nervous wading out in the surf alone.

Not being a freshwater guy, I had wondered if collect Lake water was beneficial. It sounds like the safer bet is tap water. I received my bulkhead today and will plug the hole in the back of the tank once used for saltwater (overflow leading into the sump). Once the hole is plugged, I plan to start filling the tank with tap water.

Then I will have more questions and look for answers here!!

Thanks folks!!

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http://www.cityofhoughton.com/docume...eport_2009.pdf

Seems they get it from a well vs Lake, lower bacteria I suppose.
Soda ash and permangnate will cause the pH to go up, and adds a strong oxidizer to preciptate the Fe and Mn out.

Seems getting lake water might be better, but who knows........
Call and ask them for the full report, mostly KH/GH.


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