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so for the last mounth or so my ph has been stupid. like almost 9. i cant get it down. i do 10 percent water changes once a week and nothing still. i looked on my canister filter and there is like a white rubber gromet that the water gets pulled down past and its like melting. like sticky to the touch. my plants arent dead but they have been getting a lil worst and the fish are fine but the plants have kinda stopped growing. can the melting sticky grommet cause this? im not running co2 or anything. i have the lights come on for 12 hours everyday. the water is like 73. all my other water stuff is fine. wtf is this?
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so i just checked it, it was at 8. i did a water change 2 days ago
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What's the PH of your tap water?


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idk i got to check
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you can google your local water works and it'll tell you your water params.


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http://www.acwd.org/wq_production_report.php5
thats what i got for my area.
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You can take a clean open top container (coffee cup, etc.) and fill it with your source water. Allow it to stand overnight and test it. Letting it stand allows it to out gas anything from the pipes and settle out.


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so i just did what you told me and my house water is like 8.5-8.7 ish. what should i do?
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Goodness gracious! That's horrible water. Thankfully, there are some good ways to reduce the PH in your water. What is your tank size?


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55 gallon. lol i know the water we have here sucks ass. well the good thing is i got a new stand so i need to move it to the new stand which means draining and cycling. what should i do to the water when the tank cycles again? would taking like a stocking and filling it with amo carb and just tossing it in the tank when its cycling help speed up the process of getting rid of the amonia and other stuff? there will just be plants in it in that time. the fish will be in a temp 30 gallon tank i use for these types of things.
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I had issues with water quality after moving into another home. Finally put together a R O unit and storage tank to beat it. Research for fish that enjoy higher pH OR inject CO2. Your best shot is giving your plants what they want / need and lowering pH by injecting CO2.


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I have the same issue here with my water. Its not quite that high, but its high. I also have purchased an RO unit. I use 2/3 RO water and 1/3 tap. Initially more expensive, but so much easier to do than most of the other ways of lowering pH. It was before my interest in planted tanks, so i didnt really consider going the co2 route, but certainly feasible too. I think i would have still bought the RO unit though...
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Yes, CO2 works to some degree. A 55g tank needs pressurized CO2 though. Peat is another way, but it also has its limits.

I would go with R/O water and a very light fish load. This way you won't have to do water changes all the time.

Obviously, there are many fish who do great in hard, basic water. African cichlids, most livebearers (guppies, platties, swordtails, mollies, etc.), some rainbowfish, some killies, many gobies...It is also not impossible to find a good number of plants that will tolerate the water.


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whats a ro?
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actully my friend has a ro at his house around the corner. should i get buckets of his water to fill my tank. whats peat?
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