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Hi all. I'm new to the forum, but not to aquariums.
I haven't had a tank in about 10 years, but have a lot of experience with aquariums. I my last tank was a dirted and planted tank back in 1995. We didn't have all this new tech stuff back in the day…we McGuyvered the hell out of everything!

I'm going to be setting up a tank that is 40-75 gallon range with medium plant density and lots of roots. I'm not going to get a lot of fish, but I cant resist Cardinal Tetras and I DEFINITELY want a pair of Discus. (I'm quite fond of Pigeon Bloods)

I'm thinking I'll dirt 1/3 to 1/2 the tank for swords and such, and go straight substrate other side with some carpeting looking foreground plant (suggestions?) . I'll cap with half and half "Eco Complete" and "Flouro Max" mixed 50/50 black and red, to give it a deep red coloration, maybe some sand...Unless someone can give me a reason that doing a 1/2 dirted set-up would be a bad idea.

I'll have to drag out all my old gear and rutch around to see what I have to work with. See if the old Marineland H.O.T. Magnum filter will fire up!
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I would definitely go ahead and add the sand. Eco is pretty light in weight and has a fairly large particle size which makes it difficult to hold down dirt and keep some types of plants rooted (especially grasses). Only putting soil down on half of the tank is a good idea. If you dirted the entire tank you might have some small problems with gas pockets on the side without the heavy root feeders.
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Welcome MJB13,
I'd check/w the AdAdvisor before adding any fish.
Be sure to wait till you get a zero reading on an ammonia test as dirt subs often leach
ammonia for their first couple of months. Fish wouldn't get along well with that.

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Welcome abord.
-I would go straight to 75 gal if you have amazon sword in there. My 75 gal almost look too small for my amazon sword
-Plant heavily right from the beginning. It will cycle better. Consider using floating plants, or plants the grow without being in the substrte. That helps I find.
-I would go all the way through with dirt, no half and half. But tha'ts just me.
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Welcome MJB13,
I'd check/w the AdAdvisor before adding any fish.
Be sure to wait till you get a zero reading on an ammonia test as dirt subs often leach
ammonia for their first couple of months. Fish wouldn't get along well with that.

http://www.aqadvisor.com/
I generally just get a few feeder goldfish until cycled.
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I just read a post saying that Petco has the $1 per gallon tank sales going on (although only 55 gallon sizes and lower). Although a taller 75 gal would be nice for tall plants, especially with dirted tanks maybe taking more height substrate wise. I would prefer at minimum a 55 gallon for the Discus. Height of 75 gal would be nicer, I hear 40 is a bit shallow for discus.
If you can afford it, might as well dirt the whole length of the tank. You never know how you might want to rescape the tank later on and you definitely don't want to be adjust the substrate much later down the road.

What you waiting for?! Get that tank going so you can get it cycled, dirted water settled and so you can get those Discus you want! Haha, have fun!
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