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What is the best clean up crew for glass

Algae in a 5 gallon tall tank with a single Betta? I've tried Otto's but the Betta will not leave them alone. I've had Nerite Snails but they die. I have CO2 in the tank.

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I came here to sing the praises of nerites. Any idea about why yours died? I've kept a pair in a tiny cycling three gallon without issue.

Did they have enough algae to munch on? Unlike other snails, they won't eat leftover fish food.
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I don't know. I have a 75 gallon and a 5 gallon. From 1-7 days, they die in both tanks. Sometimes, they'll live for a couple of weeks. I have tons of algae on the glass in the 75 and on the glass and rocks in the 5 gallon.

They usually keep turning upside down before they die. I turn them right side up but the next morning, they're upside down again.

Between both tanks, I've lost close to 100 snails over the last year.

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I scrub algae in my tanks maybe once or twice so a year, some tanks never EVER, I really try everything i can to avoid scrubbing. I've found a trio of bladder snails, mts, and ramshorn snails keeps my tanks pretty spotless. At a minimum, I pair up bladders w/ ramshorns. I do adjust dosing of things here and there (like sometimes extra h2o2, sometimes double dose of phos to soften algae up if I see it starting to build up at all). I've had bettas in several tanks w/ these guys and have not had any problems keeping them going.


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How does phosphate stop algae?

My 75 isn't bad. The 5 gallon is relatively new and has algae and hair algae.

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How does phosphate stop algae?

My 75 isn't bad. The 5 gallon is relatively new and has algae and hair algae.
http://www.barrreport.com/forum/barr...te-cause-algae

This isn't the same thread I've read before, but was best related thing in a quick google search I could find.


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This mag-float thing works pretty well.
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For me my massive amount of Malaysian Trumpet Snails seem to enjoy feasting on the glass during the night since any traces or signs of algae growth is almost gone within a few days.

Plus putting my phone's light on the tank in the middle of the night has almost all of the walls covered in them, so they must be eating something all night long on the glass.
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Borneo loaches get my vote. I have 2 little guys that almost keep up with a massive algae problem in my 75. I think if I got 2 more I could throw my scraper away. However, a 5 gallon is way too small for them. I'm not sure what other sites say about them, but I would recommend a tank of 20 gallons and up.
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Borneo loaches get my vote. I have 2 little guys that almost keep up with a massive algae problem in my 75. I think if I got 2 more I could throw my scraper away. However, a 5 gallon is way too small for them. I'm not sure what other sites say about them, but I would recommend a tank of 20 gallons and up.
I thought those were pretty sensitive fish, so if Nerites are dying they may not last long. They also need cooler/fast flowing water with lots of Oxygen.
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I don't have any problems with my fish, it's just the Nerites. They're either sensitive to CO2 or Osmocote Plus.

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Yeah I've never had a good experience with nerites also. My tap runs very high in pH and hardness. But boy, do I love ramshorn snails! Some may think that they're your standard pond snail but they do a great job at hitting all types of algae, decaying organic matter and can even eat BGA. They do breed quite a lot which could be a disadvantage, but as long as you don't overfeed that shouldn't be a problem. I like blue ramshorns myself as they look pretty cool.
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How do you keep them from taking over the tank? I had pond snails and got some MTS and finally got rid of them.

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I think the first thing most people used to say was figure out how to stop getting algae, not how to get something to eat it.

I ended up getting some snails from a LFS on accident. Little tiny guys, but wow do they go to town on any algae. They do not get everything, and seem to fluctuate in numbers for some reason. They also found their way into my 3 gallon tanks, but that time on purpose. I never let them get into my 30 gallon though.

One of them turned into or somehow developed into the gorgeous blue shelled snail. It looked like this clear marble at first, and I was like what is that growing? I let is be and then next day I noticed it was moving. Its about the size of a large marble now.

Anyways, whatever they are, they do pretty good, but they still do not get everything. It is best to not only use them, but figure out what is causing the issue as well.


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My tank is only a few months old. It still has some hair algae and algae on the glass and rocks. I think most of the problem were the lights. I started off with the light that came with tank. Not good. Bought a Finnex. Not good. Bought a $75 LED light bulb. Not good. I finally got through to BML and got them to build a light for me. I just got it a week ago. I have a BML on my big tank and there is nothing like it. They are awesome. So I'm hoping this will solve the problem.

The Nerites don't live in either tank.

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