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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 03-06-2009, 01:22 AM Thread Starter
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Talking I want a wet green thumb!

Hi! I'm a planted tank NEWB, but have had unplanted tanks throughout my childhood/teen years. I'm taking a crack at this, reading all the forums I can, and I feel confident I can grow all types of algae, and maybe some plants too!

So I have questions and i know y'all have answers.

1: Where's the best place to buy the plants?
2: How does riccia (when used as a foreground mat) spread if it doesn't have a rooting system?
3: What's easiest to take care of for a foreground carpet-type plant?
4: Is water only wet on one side?

I will post pics of my newly aquascaped tank of substrate, wood and stone -minus the water.
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1. IMO, the Swap n shop on this site is the best for buying plants online. Most members are very generous with their pricing and portion sizes.

2. Riccia needs to be tied down to be used as a foreground. You can tie it to rocks or wood. It needs to be trimmed frequently, or it will detach from the rocks, as the bottom portion will get shaded out and die off. It is a beautiful plant, but it should come with fair warning. It can be messy when you trim, and those tiny pieces that you don't/can't clean up will attach elsewhere and grow, so it is hard to get rid of if you wanted to

3. Lots of options here, but co2 and lighting are important to consider when choosing

4. No

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I agree with Mike, except that I haven't yet seen proof on question No 4, so I think that one is still an open question.

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I just saw a youtube vid of Riccia and how messy it can be. I'm maybe leaning toward Hemianthos Callitrichoides. Might as well tell you my tank stats and then i'll run for the fire extinguisher hehe

45 gal high
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196 watt-70k and 10k
eheim classic canister filter
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Looks nice!

That's a lot of light. What type of lighting is it (PC, T5, other)? Is it on multiple switches?

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That is quite a bit of light. Looks like you're off to a good start though.

IMHO, some Glossostigma elatinoides is fairly easy to grow and would look nice in the foreground of your tank. HC is an good option too, though.

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I have the lighting on a timer with the co2 sloenoid. It's CFL..is it really too much?! I figured the height of the tank would need that much. I actually have the timer set to stagger the two bulbs to simulate the gradual wax and wane of lighting like in real life.

I was thinking of the having some sort of low growing carpetting ,and on the left planting taller stemmed plants. The farthest to the left i was thinking of Valesneria to hide the heater,powerhead and the intake pipe. The right side I want to only have the carpet type plant. And i was thinkign of maybe Java Moss on the driftwood , kind like the tee branch look.

Any suggestions? Comments? Donations of money?

* sorry that's 192 watts,two 96 watt bulbs. I don't the think the 4 watts matter thoough hehe
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2: How does riccia (when used as a foreground mat) spread if it doesn't have a rooting system?

It doesn't. Riccia is a floating plant. It is tied to wood or rock with thread or netting. Riccia article It always has to be tied down, and as it grows, clumps break off and float up to the water surface. Supposedly there is a "sinking" riccia variety, but thats debateable

3: What's easiest to take care of for a foreground carpet-type plant?
Most carpet like foreground plants require bright light and and C02. Those that grow under low light without C02 grow and spread fairly slow. Lilaeopsis mauritius, (narrow leaf micro sword) grows and spreads pretty easy.

4: Is water only wet on one side?

Water is only wet if you touch it

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Thank You for clarifiying question #2, but most important question # 4!

And ummm yah you guys are definately correct on my nuclear high powered lighting. I am at 4.5 watts /gallon. I'll be using one bulb it seems, and hopefully that's not too much.

I think it's great that there's a swapnshop ...awesome! How would i go about buying plants from people? Should I PM them? What's the SwapNShop etiquette?
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