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recycle help

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im about to change the layout of my 3 year old setup 90x38x45 cm
800lt/h filter
old and tired susbtrate and too much organic matter.

going to use as fertilized substrate ada tourmaline,bacter 100 and a mix of equo vigor plus and tropica plant susbtrate + a 5 cm black gravel 2-3 mm
its going to be the same as it is, heavy planted, pressurized co2,EI fertilization and about 06 wt per litter.
just a change in fertilized susbtrate and gravel.

allready got everything planed except time to do it

dont know much about those fertil substrate and my question does my tank will need to cylce again? amonia spikes etc.

the plan is to use about 50% of the old water on the new setup and the same cylced filter, more fast growing plants to help and do several big water changes on the first 15 days after.

is it recomended to use products like prime and bottled bacteria to help

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Any time I reset the tank with the old plants, old slightly rinsed substrate and old filter I leave the fish out until there is zero ammonia and nitrite on the water tests. If ammonia/nitrite get to be too high due to your rich substrate then the plants are in danger, make a big water change.

I never use bottled bacteria as there is already lots of bacteria in the system, it just needs to get settled in a little bit.


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Probably will do 2 or 3 major water changes 80% plus
trying to take some nutrients before put the old water.

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Probably will do 2 or 3 major water changes 80% plus
trying to take some nutrients before put the old water.

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another help please

job done
big mess and a back pain

should hi start already fertilization,EI type
only micros
only macros
or both as usual.

should start with the normal 8,30h of ligthing or should reduce one hour or more
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another help please

job done
big mess and a back pain

should hi start already fertilization,EI type
only micros
only macros
or both as usual.

should start with the normal 8,30h of ligthing or should reduce one hour or more
If you want to start fertilization, you can go with EI.

You should use both macro and micronutrients (alternating); using just one will lead to nutrient imbalance.

8.5 hours of lighting sounds good to start with, perhaps reduce it to 8 hours. You can adjust accordingly from there.

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Tanks or the fast response
Dont forget hi have a powerfull fert substrate.
Is it safe?
Dont have test untill next week.

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Is good that substrate has nutrient's.
Is also good to dose EI with macro and micro nutrient's so plant's can draw from both the substrate and the water.(is win/win for plants)
No benefit to using dirty water from previous set up.(none)
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Tanks again guys
Already 17 mil of macros in the pool
And sorry to question again darkblade 48


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hello again guys

need another little help

im about to be a week out on job
impossible to ask my wife to take care of the kids and put every day 17 mil of this and 8 mil of that
5 days without ei ferts ...
whats your advise
big water change and abuse on the quantity before leave home to leave enough nutrients or..?
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Are you adding CO2 to the tank? If so, then slow or turn it off. No ferts is OK.

If you are not adding CO2, then don't worry, just do a water change before you leave, and make sure the fish will not be over fed. A week is not very long, you could just skip feeding them.
I leave small amounts of food in little cups for the person who will be feeding if I have to be gone longer than a few days. If anything like this is available you can load each day's food in it to make it really easy to feed.

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The food cups are a good ideia.
My main worries are the ferts.
A friend will borrow a autofeeder.
Tanks Diana

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