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New 55 day 3 questions assurances on how to proceed

55 Gallon
Fluval 406
Eco-complete red [seems different than black]
Driftwood from Craigslist
Java Fern from Craigslist
Well water, with softening system


Day one put in Eco Complete
Day Two , set up canister filter, used some Biomax from one of my tanks and 15 gallons of aquarium water, the rest well water, couple of rocks from other tanks. Only filled 2/3 so I can play with positioning. Yes, after the fact, not putting in any water may have been way easier. It’s too late for regrets.
Questions and Plans.
1. I then purchased some driftwood and a ton of Java Fern on CL. I feel very good about the sources, but thinking about running a UV sterilizer for a bit anyway, before adding fish. Thoughts? I have tied with fishing line the fern to long pieces of rock so that I will be able to rearrange them at will until tank is settled.
2. Eco-complete Has anyone seen a difference with the red? I have two tanks with black and within a couple of days you could clearly see the two different layers, not so with the red
3. When could I add my first fish? If I still feel good about the arrangement will top off the tank today/tomorrow. My plan is to add a couple or more black neons. They seem pretty hardy and I have had them about 3 months. Then start with the 10-20% change outs every other day.
4. general suggestions greatly appreciated.

Fish that I plan to add. [all in other tanks that are doing well]
Peppered corys -6 plus the two babies. Boy was I surprised to find them…so cute. LOVE cory cats
Bristlenose Pleco- should be enough wood to chew on. I have two of these, a small under two inch blonde who is much more outgoing than the 4 inch brown guy. So will probably add the blonde.
Serpae tetras- 5
Neon Tetras -3 want to get more
Black Neons- 5
Not sure what I may add, I move slow….

Bump: forgot, have a Freshwater LED from current, it has a wireless controller.
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I have nothing of benefit to add, just wanted to say that that looks like it is going to be a beautiful tank....
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One thing I would do is use water before it hits the water softener.

I'm on well water also. The nice thing is I can go straight from the hose bib on top of the well casing and fill my tanks. I've even been fortunate enough to be able to fill a tank and add fish right after. I add no chlorine to the well water and don't use a softener. I hate the slimey feel of softened water.

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GraphicGr8s, I can also go straight to well water, but worry about metals. Although I do have pH levels on the 7.5-8 range and that would drop if I went straight to the well. Going to ponder that. thanks.
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If the water which is your other tanks now is that same softened water and it
is not causing any problems/w the Tetra etc, then likely it will also work in the new tank.
Most softeners add salt to the water and some fish/plants are sensitive to this.

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GraphicGr8s, I can also go straight to well water, but worry about metals. Although I do have pH levels on the 7.5-8 range and that would drop if I went straight to the well. Going to ponder that. thanks.
When was the last time your water was analyzed? It's recommended to have well water checked once per year. I am fifteen years overdue. Talking Dept of Health checks.

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GrGr8, can I call you that for short?

we too are well overdue for well water check, probably 20 years or more....really must get to that sometime. Now our tenants on well water, they get that checked and we pay for it. hmmmm. but fish have had no problem.
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On metals in the water, you may be getting a bit more worry about it than is needed. Metals that we worry about are "heavy metals". But that is where things get messy as heavy metals are not juts the common metals that are heavy. Different way of thinking for heavy metals that are harmful. I'm not sure there is an exact line but some of the heavy metals are the common lead but others are the pretty rare stuff like chromium.
Of more concern for drinking water is the everyday type pollution. Things that may carry disease or things like creosote or other industrial stuff.
Unless you have a well that has real problems with iron content or such I would look at changing over gradually to straight well water. Fish aren't really good things to judge the health of the water. They live in the tanks when we would die in a week if we were drinking tank water.
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On metals in the water, you may be getting a bit more worry about it than is needed. Metals that we worry about are "heavy metals". But that is where things get messy as heavy metals are not juts the common metals that are heavy. Different way of thinking for heavy metals that are harmful. I'm not sure there is an exact line but some of the heavy metals are the common lead but others are the pretty rare stuff like chromium.
Of more concern for drinking water is the everyday type pollution. Things that may carry disease or things like creosote or other industrial stuff.
Unless you have a well that has real problems with iron content or such I would look at changing over gradually to straight well water. Fish aren't really good things to judge the health of the water. They live in the tanks when we would die in a week if we were drinking tank water.
That's what Glofish were first designed for. The canary in the mine if you will.

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GrGr8, can I call you that for short?

we too are well overdue for well water check, probably 20 years or more....really must get to that sometime. Now our tenants on well water, they get that checked and we pay for it. hmmmm. but fish have had no problem.
Get it checked. It's not just metals. Like Rich said it's also pesticides, petrochems, etc they check for. A lot will depend on how deep the well is too. I'm at 330' with the casing at 220' And I'm in an underground stream.

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