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Python water changes

He everyone! Hope y'all are staying warm! It's -7 here in WI!
Just wondering how everyone adds their water conditioner/dechlorinator when doing a water change using a python or or other device.
Do you add it directly to the tank as it is filling?
Add it after the tank has filled?
Stir it into a bucket and add the diluted into the tank?
Normally my filter is off while doing a water change (I do 50%) and have always wondered.

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Add it while the tank is filling.
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I add it directly to the tank (whole volume measurements) twice while doing a large water change.

otherwise, I wait until it is done and add it after

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full tank dose right before the new water goes in.

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Everyone is different but I like to spread out the dosing while I'm fill up the tank.

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Oh good! I thought maybe there was a better way of doing it.

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I also add direct to the tank full tank volume not just % of water changed
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It is cheaper to add it to a bucket and then add that water to the tank. Reason for this is the directions specify that the amount should match the quantity being treated. But that always gets all the talk about "I do this" which is often not too important because this is an item that we can get away with ignoring the directions and still not see any harm.
If you add the recommend dose of dechlor to a bucket, the chemicals can quickly find the chlorine. If you add the same amount to the main tank, it takes longer to meet up with the chlorine and may not do the job fully.
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But an easier way to think of it is like you go to a party looking for your girl/guy. If the party has ten people (gallons?) you find them in time. But if there are a 100 (gallons?) you will need more people looking before you give up and quit looking!
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It is cheaper to add it to a bucket and then add that water to the tank. Reason for this is the directions specify that the amount should match the quantity being treated. But that always gets all the talk about "I do this" which is often not too important because this is an item that we can get away with ignoring the directions and still not see any harm.
If you add the recommend dose of dechlor to a bucket, the chemicals can quickly find the chlorine. If you add the same amount to the main tank, it takes longer to meet up with the chlorine and may not do the job fully.
Techie term? Diffusion
But an easier way to think of it is like you go to a party looking for your girl/guy. If the party has ten people (gallons?) you find them in time. But if there are a 100 (gallons?) you will need more people looking before you give up and quit looking!

lmao love the analogy and yes as most people have pointed out it really doesnt matter as I have shrimp tanks and add the dechlor to the tank before adding water and all my sensitive shrimp are still alive. If I had less tanks/one tank then I would just fill a bucket and fill it with dechlor and then let it sit before pumping back into the tank but as I have too many tanks now to do that I just fill the tanks directly now


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Problem with the bucket thing is when you have a big tank. I regularly change about 20 gallons of water per change in my 65g and that's a lot of bucketing. I've tried. Yes, it's slightly more expensive to add full volume to the tank, but it works quite well and there's almost no effort. I just have to keep an eye on the tank while it's filling.


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But an easier way to think of it is like you go to a party looking for your girl/guy. If the party has ten people (gallons?) you find them in time. But if there are a 100 (gallons?) you will need more people looking before you give up and quit looking!
Just find another girl/guy then. Sorted!
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Using prime here, added to the tank directly right before water goes in, I'd rather spend the extra 32 cents every 5 months rather than add to the bucket, I mean that's the reason I got the python in the first place lol


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60 gal tank.

I've done 80% water changes and just dumped the dechlor in before I started adding water without problems.
I position the python at an angle so it causes the water to circulate some.


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One thing that I am having issues with python water changes is suctioning the water up, seems there's not enough pressure at my house. But, water to tank, I am having no problem at all. :/


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full tank dose right before the new water goes in.

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