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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-13-2014, 07:55 PM Thread Starter
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Tank help please

Hi everyone.

I just got into the hobby back in February. Everything has been great up until now. The trouble just started recently. My otocinclus died and I'll admit it was my fault. I didn't do enough research and starved it to death. Since then my betta hasn't been as active but nothing else obviously noticeable. I moved him to a 1 gallon bowl then I noticed my two neon tetras just hiding at the bottom of the tank and not eating as usual.

Ammonia 0
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Any help or ideas would be much appreciated
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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 12-13-2014, 08:52 PM
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What's the temp at?
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Sorry about that, 76F
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Sorry to hear about your oto. They're very nice little fish, but a lot of people have trouble keeping them.

Ideal temperature for a betta is going to be 76-82 Fahrenheit, whereas neon tetras do better between 74 and 80.

Both neons and otos do better and are more active in larger numbers. You might want to consider getting 3 or 4 more neon tetras. If you do, you should quarantine them for at least 2 weeks before putting them in your tank, since neons seem to be very susceptible to disease.

EDIT: My internet connection was screwy. sorry about that. Your temperature should be fine where it is.

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Fish may hide when they are not feeling socially comfortable. Neons are schooling fish, and ought to be kept in groups of at least half a dozen, and a dozen or more is better. Obviously the size of the tank may dictate the size of the school. I could easily see half a dozen plus a Betta and an Oto in a 10 gallon.

Neons prefer a cooler tank, but 76* might be a reasonable compromise.
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Is the betta bullying anybody? I feed my Otos diatoms from my lower lit betta tanks that are always full of diatoms. Every so often I switch up decor or plants when they're brown. The Otos go to town and clean everything up and then I put it back.
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the neons are not socializing. they have a school mentality/security blanket.

i have a shoal in my tank, and they do seperate, but come back together all throughout the day, add 4 more neons and they should all be moving around swimmingly
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My neons started to come out of hiding when I put floaters in the tank. Lots of light and fear of a predator from above will push them to a corner


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i dont have floaters, but the surface is broken up by sword leaves, and driftwood. could be whats going on with mine socializing
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Just from the photo above, you have a bright red predator hanging out at the top, with only 2 tetra in the tank they are scared, will eventually stress out and die. They are braver in bigger groups like others have said. I would add some duckweed and just keep it in check. You betta will like the floaters as well.


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Well just an update... The betta passed last night. I almost certain there wasn't an issue of fear. They've been tank mates for over 6 weeks. The tetras actually started hiding after I pulled the betta out. They're in the corner but one of the of them is starting to come out a little further.
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