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I might have a water circulation problem in fish tank

So I want to improve the circulation in my tank. I feel like the side opposite of the filter is just collection crap. My tank is a 60 gallon tank (48w x 13d x 24h), there is a brace in the middle so my filter is on one side. It’s a MARINELAND Penguin 350B Power Filter rated for a 70 gallon tank.

So I have a couple of options (that I can think of)

Option 1
Buy another filter or get a canister

Petsmart is having 50% off all MARINELAND products on black Friday. But my worries are wasting money and I am not sure where I could put the canister.

Option 2
I have an air pumps & air stones in storage. Should just use that?

Option 3
I have a really cheap powerhead in storage too. Should I just use that?

If u guys have any other ideas please let me know.

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I would use the air stones
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I don't know that filter, but can't you add a flexible tube to the intake to place the input differently?


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Most filters are over-rated. That doesn't sound like much filter for that tank.
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You could try adding the powerhead. Could you post a pic of the tank?

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here is a picture of the tank before i added plants. sorry its and older pic but i am not home.

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I don't know that filter, but can't you add a flexible tube to the intake to place the input differently?
Then like put it in the middle?
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add the power head to make a cross current, should swirl the water a bit to keep the surface moving.
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Filter is not too bad...

.... for my 40 gallon breeder.


I sure would not use it on anything larger.
I do not care what the manufacturer says.

You just about have the list correct.

Since you have on hand a PH and an air pump, try either or both before buying another filter.

Yes, you need a lot more water movement than the Penguin gives you.
If you decide to keep it I would make the intake longer for such a deep tank. Try some thin wall PVC pipe. (Since I used it on a shallow tank, I do not know what size pipe to try- maybe 3/4"? That is a large diameter tube. Larger than most other HOBs).

Try the PH mounted so the water flow hits the end glass, and is diverted into the worst of the debris pile. Sort of blowing it all over the place, at first. Hopefully it will alter the water flow to work with the filter. Once the debris is prevented from settling there, perhaps it will stay in suspension until it gets near the filter intake.

Try the air right in the middle of the worst of the debris. (Same idea: Debris is not allowed to settle there)

Might take both PH and air.

Air to lift up the debris, PH to keep it moving toward the filter intake.

A second filter or replacement ought to help. I would use an Aquaclear 110 on that large tank.

Alternate method:
Use some tubing attached to the PH, put the intake near the bottom of the tank, the outlet fairly high. Pretty much matching the filter flow. But over on the other side of the support. Put a sponge over the intake of the PH so it traps the debris. The first few days you might have to clean it often until the build up of debris is gone.
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I've got a 60 gallon. My canister filter is rated for tanks up to 100 gallons. And still, I needed better circulation. So a canister filter isn't necessarily going to fix the problem.

I just got one of these an am real happy with it.
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I use that same filter on my 20 gallon and it plenty for that tank. I think I would move up to a little larger filter. You have over 60 gallon tank and that filter is just barley large enough for the tank. Just me but I would look for some thing that turned the tank over about 6 to 7 times an hour.
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Power filters give great circulation in a tank from back to front, but are really bad at providing circulation off to the sides. I replaced my power filter with a canister, now I can direct the flow down the length of the tank. The only time I have circulation issues now is when the stems grow so thick and tall they chokes the flow at the far end of the tank, give the tank a hair cut and flow resumes as normal
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Thanks for all your help guys! Right now i am using the PH and air pump and so far its been working great. I notcied there is any build up in the far corner anymore. I will get a bigger filter or a canister in the future. Just not right now.
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I have two filters on my 65g, both rated 55g. Works well.


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