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Leaves falling of plants and snail at top of water

Hi, I have a newly planted tank, running about a month, no fish. It has soil and no ferts.

The leaves just started falling off one of the plants and they are fresh leaves, not dead at all. Also I have 1 snail in the tank it appears and he's always at the top I noticed the last couple days.

Are both related in anyway, I was playing with the light output the other day but thought I put it back where it was. Is it to much light but why the snail at the top? Trying to catch this while its early, other plants are ok but look like they have a little less color.
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What kind of plant is it . can you post a pic ?
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Have you tested your ammonia or nitrate levels?
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Not sure what the plants are, they are all easy growers. I attached some pics including one of the snail. Looking closer I have quite a few snails but they are all on the bottom of the lilly pads. I knocked one down and he started climbing for the top again.

I tested the water about a week ago and it was ok, I have no fish and I just did a water change a couple days ago getting it ready for fish but now these leaves are coming off.

Earlier today I took out 10 leaves, all from the same plant and now there are another 10 leaves floating around.

The 3rd picture is another plant showing signs of not being happy, sorry for the poor quality.
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It's pretty common for dirted tanks to go thru an initial period of very high or recurring ammonia spikes--these can be toxic not only to fish, but the plants as well. The Walstad method calls for *very* dense initial planting to help offset this affect; your tank is only lightly planted.

Anytime you're setting up a new system, basic recurring water checks are going to be your best tool for understanding what's happening in your tank and heading off any problems before they do actual damage.
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I have read Diana Walstad's book and am applying most of that here. This is my second tank, the other has been going 6 months, exact same dirt but it didn't experience any of these problems and it was planted with even less plants.

The difference on this tank is the light, its LED vs T5HO. Initially I had the lights way to bright and everything basically died, I got new plants, dimmed the lights and things were growing until now.

The soil has probably been submersed for close to 2 months now. I'm getting a scum on the top of the water to.
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Smile Skim the Scum & Don't Worry, Be Happy!

Hi,

I would not worry too much give it time.

Skim the scum…

The snail is doing what snails do, feeding off the biofilm and loving life.

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