Slow growth and algae problems! - The Planted Tank Forum
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-01-2014, 05:15 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Kalispell, Mt
Posts: 81
Send a message via Yahoo to books421
Slow growth and algae problems!

My plants are just not growing much and algae is a big problem. Not very heavyily planted. I just don't know why that is.

Tank: 18"W X 36"L X 24"H (With glass Lid)

Light: 4 light T5HO (light is suspended about 4 inches above glass lid)
-3 x 10,000 K
-1 x 5500 K
-2 bulbs wired together on two different switches on timers.
-1st light (one 10,000K and one 5500k), which has a redish glow)
*runs for 8 hours
-2nd light (two 10,000K bulbs)
*runs for 4 hours

Large canister filter (2 powerheads for circulation)

Eco complete substrate

CO2 injected (on timer)
*runs for 9 hours
-airstone on at night

Fertilizers
-Dose flourish comprehensive as recommended. once a week.

Weekly water changes of about 30%.

Tank is cycled and been running for a long time.
-3 x pearl gourami
-2 x moonlight gourami
-3 angels
-3 glow light tetras
-many nerite snails

Lots of driftwood and large rocks.

Plants
Cryptocoryne parva
Helanthium tenellums
Crypt Nurii
Bylx Japonica
Proserpinaca Palustris
Myriophyllum Mattogrossensi

Last edited by books421; 11-01-2014 at 05:45 PM. Reason: mistake
books421 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-01-2014, 05:32 PM
Planted Member
 
BigJay180's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Vegas baby
Posts: 297
Excel is not a fertilizer, it's an algaecide and a carbon source.

Head to the 'fertilizer' forum and read up on 'estimative index', and buy some dry fertilizer from green leaf aquarium.com. You need to be adding Nitrogen, Phosphorous, and Potassium
BigJay180 is offline  
post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-01-2014, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Kalispell, Mt
Posts: 81
Send a message via Yahoo to books421
oops

Typed wrong flourish comprehensive is what I meant.
books421 is offline  
 
post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-01-2014, 06:13 PM
Planted Member
 
BigJay180's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Vegas baby
Posts: 297
Quote:
Originally Posted by books421 View Post
Typed wrong flourish comprehensive is what I meant.
Fourish comp is micro ferts if I remember right. Plants need Nitrogen, potassium, and phosphorous above all. That bottle probably doesn't have all three, and not in sufficient quAntities
BigJay180 is offline  
post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-01-2014, 06:32 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Kalispell, Mt
Posts: 81
Send a message via Yahoo to books421
Macros?

Missing the macro's.....Duh.. I completely overlooked that. Thanks.

Anyone know if using the EI method is expensive?
books421 is offline  
post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-01-2014, 07:05 PM
Banned
 
PTrader: (4/100%)
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Near Ashville, North Carolina
Posts: 1,866
It is not expensive at all.
jrill is offline  
post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-02-2014, 12:20 AM
Planted Tank Guru
 
philipraposo1982's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 3,020
i would run 6500k 6700k 10k better spectrum will provide better growth.

10k are not really needed but people like the look.

75 Gallon Low Tech w/ Green Terror Pair
philipraposo1982 is offline  
post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-02-2014, 12:50 AM
Plant Whisperer
 
Zapins's Avatar
 
PTrader: (28/100%)
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Posts: 2,540
Sounds like a nutrient deficiency. EI is a good cheap fertilizer method to use.

Zapins
Zapins is online now  
post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-02-2014, 01:19 AM
Wannabe Guru
 
Django's Avatar
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: MA
Posts: 1,090
A good post for getting going on EI - recipes for different sized tanks: https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=647697

I used to have gravel, which has no fertilizer in it, in my tank, and used Flourish Comprehensive. Diana Walstad, in her book, "The Ecology of the Planted Aquarium" (I think I got that right), says that enough fertilizer comes from fish food by way of the fish. Now I've been using potting mix under a sand cap. Potting mix has fertilizer, and the same plants are growing much better. Just to support the idea that plants need NPK, Nitrogen, Phosphorus and Potassium.

Crypts like Root Tabs because they are heavy root feeders. Don't let the Chemistry or different technology of fertilizer put you off.

When I started planting my tank, I was told 6500K lights, near the color temperature of sunlight. I have been using those.

MY TANK: Planted 10g; 2 x 10W CFL; Fluval U2 internal filter; MGOCPM/black sand cap

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
started April 18, 2012

Last edited by Django; 11-02-2014 at 10:38 PM. Reason: correction
Django is offline  
post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-06-2014, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
Algae Grower
 
PTrader: (3/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Kalispell, Mt
Posts: 81
Send a message via Yahoo to books421
thanks

THank you all. Much help.
books421 is offline  
post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 11-06-2014, 06:24 PM
Planted Tank Obsessed
 
DayOlder's Avatar
 
PTrader: (4/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Aurora Colorado
Posts: 488
Quote:
Originally Posted by books421 View Post
Anyone know if using the EI method is expensive?
If you buy it from Nilocg "Back in Black" off the For sale forum and mix your own from his dry ferts it's $28/year for 40 gal tank and that includes shipping.

The wheel turns.
DayOlder is offline  
Reply

Tags
None

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome