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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 10-13-2008, 07:15 PM Thread Starter
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Ok I've been browsing youtube and looking at DIY stuff, but one thing I noticed is that all DIY methods tend to bring the beauty factor down a bit, I've seen the talk of sumps for heating and filtration but what about CO2 injecting?

Also can ya'll help me get a better idea of how this all would work, I want my 55 g to become planted, but in a high-tek low cost way...

Cheap but efficient lighting, I don't mind DIY's but I don't want to OD the bulbs for safety reasons.

What size pumps and filters are needed for the sump? Is it possible to use 1-2 HOB cheapo's on a smaller tank under the stand, heat that water, AND let it house the reactor for Co2?

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Heres one reactor that I like, but instead of being in the showpiece, can it be in the hidden tank?
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...which reactor?
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If you're only wanting a CO2 reactor and heater, I highly recommend using a canister filter (or two), and plumbing an inline heater (Hydor) and an inline CO2 reactor (something like: https://www.plantedtank.net/forums/di...x-reactor.html) rather than a sump setup.
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Agreed, save the sumps for the reefs and real big tanks. It's not always worth having them on most CO2 injected tanks.


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cool I like that reactor, but I guess now my big stump is filters, I've read differing views on filters , ehiem, fluval, filstar, and was given really good advice on ehiems, but my question is on GPH whats a good target and how does the current play it's part (Aside from spreading chems/nutrients across the tank), but what amount of current is needed for a 55g?
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For the Rena you'd want the XP 3 or 4. I don't know flow requirements for the other brands, but Eheim and ADA seem to be the current contenders along with Rena.

The current basically does what you mentioned, better circulation allows for better distribution of everything good through plants and hardscape. Fish tend to school more often in a good straight current. Dead spots can cause detritus build up and other low flow related problems, CO2 dispersion being a big one, something more extreme would be sulfur pockets, and the ultimate extreme obviously would be stagnation.


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where's the best place to find a deal on one of those filters?
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http://www.kensfish.com/canisterfilterlinks.html

or Ebay - caveat emptor


The ADA canister has to be purchased form ADA or aquaforestaquarium, as far as I know, and I don't think you'll be getting a deal on that one.


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ebay! Prices will beat any story, almost always... Just check the feedback of the person you buy from and use a debit/credit card hooked to your paypal account(for more powerful disputing powers)
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Yes always read feedback, and make sure they offer a manufacturer warranty.


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ok well, aside from filters

Lighting, can you use regular flourescent bulbs like you get at walmart? I'm looking around for DIY stuff
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Has anyone heard or know anything about this site right here?


http://www.ahsupply.com/index.html

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Ahsupply is very popular and one of the best deals/quality for DIY. Hellolights.com is also good. Many people use T8 shop lights from Home Depot/Lowes with success, depends on how high tech you want to go and what the tank requires to do so. It really doesn't take a ton of light to grow most plants, CO2 and nutrients are just as important if not more, and the light should be limited if those won't be abundant.

For a 55gl with CO2, I would shoot for 100 to 150 watts depending on how often you want to dose ferts and how fast you want the plants to grow.


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