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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-18-2008, 11:37 AM Thread Starter
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Is this going to turn into a disaster?

Up until yesterday I had three tanks going: A 14 gallon Betta sorority, a 5 gallon tank with a male Betta and some White Clouds and a 10 gallon with six guppies.

Yesterday my little brother was in my room and somehow managed to tip the 10 gallon over! Two of the sides are cracked and one is blown, by the time that I rushed upstairs to the scene of the crime two of the guppies were dead and the remaining four were gasping on the floor. He still won’t own up to what he was doing in my room that could lead to a rather heavy tank being toppled, although I suspect that he was leaning on the edge of it to see in the top.
I quickly netted the guppies and put them in my sorority tank and they seem to be doing fine this morning.

So the 14 gallon currently holds:

6 female Bettas.
4 Guppies (2 male, 2 female).
2 Otos.

Is this horrifically over stocked? Can the fish live this way for a while if I keep doing regular water changes? I can't afford a new tank at the moment (I'm a college student and don't have a part-time job) and won’t be able to until Xmas.

I have salvaged the filter from the 10 gallon and I have it running in the 14 (as well as the original) in the hopes that the extra filtration will help lessen the bio-load.

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I wouldn't say that its "horrifically over stocked", but if the guppies fry dont get eaten in the tank it will get there.
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I wouldn't say that its "horrifically over stocked", but if the guppies fry dont get eaten in the tank it will get there.
It's good to know that I'm not pushing the boundaries too far anyway.

My Betta girls are all used to eating guppy fry. The only reason that I had guppies in the first place was to breed live food for conditioning my Bettas for breeding. I don't think that the guppy population will be increasing any time soon.

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A new 10g tank is only $10 at walmart ... how expensive are they in Ireland?
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A new 10g tank is only $10 at walmart ... how expensive are they in Ireland?
Well my 14 cost €99 ($142) and it was on sale. A new 10 gallon would probably cost 60-80 euro (86-115 dollars)

Things cost a lot of money here to put it mildly.

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Well, at least your brother didn't get seriously injured.

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A new 10 gallon would probably cost 60-80 euro (86-115 dollars)
What?!? A bare standard 10g? 5 small panes of glass, two plastic rims, and a bit of silicone? Blimey!
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Well, at least your brother didn't get seriously injured.
Yeah, even though he's lucky I didn't skull him afterward.


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What?!? A bare standard 10g? 5 small panes of glass, two plastic rims, and a bit of silicone? Blimey!
Yep. Tax is incredibly high here; I try to buy most of my stuff online because even with the shipping it often costs less than it would to buy it at the local shop.

I suppose it evens out though. My country apparently has one of the highest disposable incomes in the world so it makes sense for the government to steal it from us

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How much would glass and a tube of Slilcone I run? If you save the rims you could rebuild the tank with new glass.
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How much would glass and a tube of Slilcone I run? If you save the rims you could rebuild the tank with new glass.
10 gallons? You don't even need the rim.

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How much would glass and a tube of Slilcone I run? If you save the rims you could rebuild the tank with new glass.
Aquarium safe silicon is about €15 ($21) and glass panels of that size are probably around €15 a piece as well. That's €50-€60 that I just don't have at the moment (I have trouble scrounging up the few euro to buy lunch each day never mind fixing/buying fish tanks).

This is the only solution that I can think of that will tide me over to Xmas when I'll have a bit of cash that doesn't involve me getting rid of any of my fish.

Do you think that it's a workable set-up for a few months?

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Yes.
Good stuff.

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Definitely a workable setup, especially if you're running both filters. I don't think you'll have a problem with it getting over crowded with guppy fry, the Bettas should take care of that. The only thing I'd keep an eye out for is the lady bettas going after the male guppies because they think it's a male betta due to the long tail. Other than that, I think you should be all set!


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WOW out of curiosity i tried to ship a 10 gallon tank ot you via ups and it was 325 bucks just in shipping.

USPS though for a 10 pound box is only 52 dollars shipped ot ireland


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